Ariza: The Other Reason for PacMan's success.

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  1. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    oh so instead of calling his bluff the first time.....he waist till Floyd says the first deal is off.....then calls the bluff?

    type of shyt is that?
     
  2. what type of shyt is going on vacation and no urge?
     
  3. gotta love the flhomos who got no expertise in this topic acting they know something.

    :lol:

    i even doubt you know the structure of cholesterol the precursor for steroids :lol::lol::rofl
     
  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    (don't muddle up the exchange.)

    So, you think it's HGH?...you think the HGH would be beneficial in that 14 or 24 day window?
     
  5. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    absolutly right.....complete gobbage....

    as is that bullshyt Pac pulled...as always pac fans think no one sees Floyds bullshyt....a lot of us do...but for some reason...Pac fans dont see his bullshyt.
     
  6. johnnydrama

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    The first round was a feeling out process. MOST felt Floyd wanted the fight and most felt he was confident in the win.

    SO the accusations and demands were all kind of thought to have been Floyd's "Mental strategy". Everyone thought the accusations and demands were odd and out of left feild but they all chalked it up to Floyd being a brilliant self promoter!

    PAC didn't want to GIVE IN to all of FLoyd's demands b/c he didn't HAVE to. He was just as much the draw and he wasn't gonna be dictated to.

    Especially not after the accusations that we are still waiting for proof on. Could you have imagined if PAC blasted the media with "FLOYD IS ON ROIDS, FLOYD IS DIRTY, FLOYD HAS CHEATED and FLOYD HAS THE A SIDE OF MEFF"....all BEFORE the 1st round of negotiations...Then PAC, without any evidence to support those demands told Floyd he HAD TO TAKE HIS OLYMPIC STYLE TESTING IF HE WANTED THE FIGHT?:rofl

    Floyd would have told Manny to go **** off and the fight wouldnt' be a topic.

    Manny simply negotiating on the cut off was MORE than he should have had to go through JUST to make a fight. It's never been this difficult for Floyd to handle his business, but with PAC he's got a new look to him. And it ain't a confident one.

    Floyd said after the Shane fight he was ready and willing to make the fight with PAC this year if he agreed to ALL of his demands. So PAC called his bluff....and now we see Floyd making an ass out of himself with the racial rant....saying he's lost his urge and doesnt know if he will fight again and now he's getting married to a fine peice of ass. (Yea...I'm hating:D) But I'm not mad at him for that...I'm mad he just couldn't come out and say he didn't want to fight Manny.
     
  7. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bottom line is that Floyd ran. This brings into question the VALIDITY of his demand for drug testing. After Pac caved in to the demand, that should have been that. Was Floyd really just concerned over the PED issue?

    That aside, it doesn't matter about whatever went before, Floyd said, Pac said, same move everytime; none of that matters except that ALL the roadblocks had been removed. Right?

    And yet, where is Floyd? You're the only guy I see asking where Floyd is but it's more like a reason to continue with the Pac is hiding from testing mantra. He's damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

    You can't on the one hand agree that this vacation business is bull**** after Pac agreed to full testing, only to go back and say Pac is on peds cuz he hasn't taken the test. Whose fault is it now that he can't take the test due to a vacation?

    Is that logical?
     
  8. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    What Floyd did was bullshyt and is bullshyt

    but that shyt Pac pulled was bullshyt too....not being dictated too...come on....then why not just say that from jump? No he didnt he gave a slew of bogus excuses as to why he COULDNT blood test.

    But hey apparently he is willing to do all the testing and evrything is good....so now nothing should be an issue after this bullshyt ass vaccation
     
  9. igotJUIC3

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    whose saying this? show me where i say he is taking peds?

    Again......if Pac is not on anything and apparently NOW testing all of a sudden is cool....what the fukk was the problem from jump!?

    Pac is no saint and im not buyin the bullshyt some of you are all to willingly ready to accept.....you criticize FLoyd for his bullshyt....but when Pac does it...oh its ok because now he wants to test fukk outta here....that means he had the means to give us the fight the first time but chose his own selfish reasons not to....just like guess who...FLOYD

    both are full of shyt!

    and i call Floyd's bullshyt because it is bullshyt

    and i'll call Pac's bullshyt the same i dont need a reason to call any fighters bullshyt.....it is what it is its just some of you have too much hatred for one boxer and too much love i guess for the other and cant see his bullshyt.....
     
  10. rulb

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    You may not have said that but you were indirectly saying that pac is using a new drug that will be undetectable.
     
  11. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously?

    It doesn't matter if he didn't agree the first time because he agreed this time! Going back and pointing fingers over and over does nobody any good. Nevermind the accusations were bull**** to begin with, the fact remains that Pac agreed. He caved in, finally to all the demands you *****s have been crying about for a year, and you're not happy with it. You still want to rehash the last year over and over.

    :verysad
     
  12. johnnydrama

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    Seriously homie.....Do you think Floyd would have allowed PAC to operate in the same capacity that he showed during the process of trying to make this fight happen?

    These two have big egos....so it was a very delicate sitaution from the jump. Both needed to have a clear understanding of hte magnitute of this fight and BOTH had to know going IN that there would have to be compromises.

    What Floyd came in with was already a HUGE hurddle to over come for Manny. Simply b/c it wasn't the NORMAL actions in making any fight.

    Had PAC been the one to spread the allegations about Floyd being dirty and demanded Floyd take the tests, Floyd wouldn't have allowed PAC to dictate those demands to him. And everyone knows that. Even his most loyal fans. So they can't expect PAC to have agreed to ALL of Floyds ridicoulous demands going in.
     
  13. GOW7

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    Let me guess? Youre going to claim I'm an uneducated ****** that fills my local prisons quota while being on welfare because like usual you lack anything with substance and intelligence because your a jealous,envious rascist with nothing to offer to this site?:think Your act has been old for awhile now. If this conversation gets any serious your going to go rascist because you have a fragile mind and weak confidence about yourself that to repair your childish ego you have to bring up a lie that you are somewhat superior to somebody because of skin color while even though you know in your pathetic heart youre not and in fact wish you were black this whole time so you could be the very thing youre afraid of but act like you have balls against behind a computer screen . Just admit you want to be Floyd who is your hero that you build your whole internet identity on. Its OK little child. You were picked on at school and your girl got taken by a black guy and you didn't make the team because a black guy beat you too it and your favorite basketball player Larry Bird was destroyed by Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson and your favorite golf player was surpassed by Tiger Woods who calls himself caublasian but nonetheless a black guy and your favorite singer Elvis modeled his style from the negro sound and your favorite rapper is eminem the glorified wigger and your favorite boxer Manny Pacquiao is a suspected doper and underdog to a what? You guessed it a black guy and......... .....

    I can keep this up all day. Just let me know when you want to be serious and be an adult about things because anyone can be a clown with Floyds head in a vagina which is something that is probably a mystery to you but honestly I admit it was a clever idea and a good way to maybe fit in and be a part of something because your intelligence sure as hell doesn't grant you that and you trying to act like someone that is intelligent just doesn't suit you for some reason I can't put my finger on.:huhOh well like I said. I'm up for adult conversation anytime you are.:good
     
  14. igotJUIC3

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    are you for real?

    Floyds taken a vaccation now after fighting Mosley

    but when Floyd was ready all he asked for was random blood testing your boy obviously couldnt do it was scared of needles...go figure.

    after Floyd bout gets decapitated in last fight although still blowing out Mosley....decides he fought for his one year and takes vaccation.

    Now is it bullshyt yea it is...but got dayum he tried to make his one fight with Pac but Pac blows it with the im scared bullshyt ALLOWING Floyd to now carry on with more bullshyt.

    Bullshyt + Bullshyt = More Bullshyt

    Pac:Im scared of needles + Floyd: im on vacation = No Fight

    see the equation.....is it really this hard for yo to believe your hero bullshyts like everyone else?
     
  15. thesmokingm

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    You're saying you'd rather repeat the drivel from the last year instead asking why Floyd couldn't have said instead that he wants a vacation now, but come March, May or whatever, "It's on like Donkey Kong?"

    True *****, even while pretending to be neutral. :good