Armstrongs ranking at Featherweight and Lightweight

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  1. Swarmer

    Swarmer Patrick Full Member

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    My favorite fight too brodhi.:good


    Plus Chavez's problem against Pea wasn't that he wasn't physically good enough- although he could have been faster- it's that he didn't properly seal away Pea's movement, body or foot, with enough feints and/or combination work.
     
    Swarmer, Aug 30, 2011
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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I totally agree. I think I might move him up a place or two into 4th spot.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 30, 2011
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  3. Flea Man

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    One thing; these resume dissections your doing....you are watching as mch as you can possibly get your hands on of all mentioned? Makes everything fall into place IMO :good
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    yeah, in about a year I hope to confidently rank or group every HOF fighter :good
     
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  5. Flea Man

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    Fair do's, you'll have a nervous breakdown at some point, we all do.

    Going back to earlier, about to watch Serranos win over Villaflor (who I rate highly @ 130lbs) Villaflor was past his best, but should be interesting viewing :good
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Alphabetically speaking (aside from the obvious modern [post 1980] schoices) I'm up to Khasoi Galaxy :good.

    I was actually diappointed with bobby chacon, for some reason I held him in higher regard :huh

    once I've studied the post 80's HOF'ers I'll move onto 50's, 60's and 70's and keep going back in 30 year increments.

    I'll post my resume disections as I complete them because it's good to share knowledge I think.

    A lot of my recent posts on the classic seem to be arguello related and I don't want people to think I'm biased or anything because I'm not even a fan of his :lol: just seems topical atm.

    Then again over on the general I have people telling me robinson wouldn't crack the top 50 WW today and Danny Williams is better than George Foreman :patsch
     
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  7. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I'll save you the trouble with Khaosai; Conteras and Pical (I think?) and not much else.

    His twin brother Khaokor, with truly dominant wins over Sung Kil-Moon and Wilfredo Vasquez, and so much more offensively diverse, skilled and intelligent, was far better :good

    And here and the British: try and stay away from the General :lol: :deal
     
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ah well, this research is gonna be painstaking but it'll be first hand stuff. I'll watch the footage, I'll gauge the opponents, i'll make my decisions :good

    the only problem is the summer holidays are over now so I have 3 teacher training days this week and then the pupils return on monday so my time is a hell of a lot more limited now.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 30, 2011
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  9. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    **** that, get them to add up all the HOFers on everyones record and to calculate said fighters K.O% against top opposition.

    That will get the kinda' results you're after (bad pun intended)
     
    Flea Man, Aug 30, 2011
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    oh dear.

    you know what I'd love that "today class you're going to research a famous boxer each. tell me everyone he fought who was a champion or top 10 ranked by the ring"

    I'd be done in a couple of weeks lol.
     
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  11. Drew101

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    I have Armstrong in my top three at featherweight, while Arguello lands around 6-8 on my featherweight lists. Both guys put up gargantuan numbers at this weight in the early stages of their career. The Olivares victory might be more eye-catching, but Armstrong beat an awful lot of really good fighters, and holds at least one clean victory over a fighter who cracks my Top 10 at 126lbs (Baby Arizmendi)

    Lightweight is a bit of a tougher call. Arguello has greater quantity, but Armstrong defeated Ross as a lightweight, and holds victories over Montanez, Ambers, Feldman, et al at the weight. That's prolly enough for him to shade this, imo.
     
    Drew101, Aug 31, 2011
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  12. lufcrazy

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    regarding an earlier convo I had with someone who was just like you, Gomez>Morales at SBW. it's clear to me now.
     
    lufcrazy, Aug 31, 2011
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  13. Flea Man

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    Good man, as I say, Bazooka Gomez>Everyone @ 122 :D
     
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  14. burt bienstock

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    B,after Tony Canzoneri kod kid Chocolate in 2 rds in 1933,a reporter asked Canzoneri ,"how did you ever ko Kid Chocolate,who has a very thin body,and a very thin chin "? Canzy replied " I hit him in his thin body,and I hit him in his thin chin "! Two very great featherweights,were they...
     
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I agree actually.

    I think you sold galaxy a bit short as well btw.
     
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