Arnold Cream vs Hasim Rahman , 15 rds

Jersey Joe had forgotten more about boxing than Rahman will ever know. Easy decision win.

 

These are two very inconsistent fighters. Wallcot lost a lot for a fighter considered great. 18 defeats, 14+ of which came from different opponents. Exactly how is this great?? Losing decisions in years that can be viewed in his prime or near prime to the likes of Rex Layne, Joey Maxim, and John Allen.


By contrast Rhaman only lost 7 times. At his best Rhaman defeated Lennox Lewis ( Better than anyone Walcott defeated ) , Sanders, and if the score cards were fair Tua at least once. The 1st Tua loss deserves an asterisk next to it because Tua landed a monster shot after the bell, and Rhaman could not recover in the next round late in a fight that Rhaman was winning.


Much depends on Rhaman's weight and both men's focus. I would go with Rhaman here, as Walcott didn't have power like the men who stopped Rhaman, and Walcott himself just seemed to coast in many of his matches. I would also say Rhaman has the best chance to score a stoppage win because he could bang. A hard match to call though.

 

The difference is that Walcott was usualy inconsistant for a good reason.

He was not a full time profesional fighter for most of his losses.

When he did have a manager and a suport network, he fought to a ridiculous schedule.

 

I like Walcott via late stoppage.

 

I could say the same for Rhaman, who wasn't always serious about staying in shape, and often ballooned up in weight.

 

I don't know that Walcott ever lost a fight through lack of application.

 

Maskaev take a better shot than Walcott? I can't agree with that at all...are you serious?

Walcott was a different class to Rahman and would beat him comfortably. He would hardly catch Walcott all night and Walcott certainly punched hard enought to stop Rahman...any man who could put Marciano on the deck could stop Rahman.

Walcott via stoppage over a bemused, bewildered and frustrated Rahman in the championship rounds.

 

I didn't know there were any books on rahman and if they are I certainly haven't read them.

I've actually seen quite a lot of rahman and i've only been disappointed by him against ruiz. In the maskaev rematch if was losing the fight before being bombed out.

Either way hasim didn't look as strong in the latter rounds of that fight, although he did deserve to win the rematch imo.

My point is that I wouldn't expect jersey to secure a fatigue stoppage. If anything there'd be a cumulative stoppage due to joe tagging hasim time and time again.

 

I know what you said he wasn't given enough time to recover from the shot after the bell.

It still doesn't change that I see him fading as rounds go on.

I think the jersey from the first rocky fight certainly has what it takes to beat the hasim from the lewis rematch.

Rahman is much bigger than jersey, in a significant way, but jersey could counter rocks jab's over and over whilst stepping out of range from his big right hand.

If rahman catches him with the type of shot if caught lewis with he would end the fight, of that I have no doubts. But I don't think hasim could back jersey up enough behind the jab to set up his right hand.

I see counter after counter eventualising in knockout victory for jersey.