Arreola's Chin is Shaky, He WILL Get Starched!!

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  1. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Fail thread and I consider myself a failure as well if I agreed to this which I'm sure I did.

    Arreola proved everyone wrong with his ability to take a punch, did you guys see the ****ing punches he took?, he handled those punches better than Lewis, Peter, Williams, Johnson, Sanders, Purrity and Donald did. The man has a granite chin and if his conditioning was crap he WOULDN'T have stood to them for so long.

    I was a fan of Arreola only to criticize him a lot because of his weight issues and how people were constantly negative towards him, I remain a fan of his and a BIGGER fan after last night. It's enough to say the man had "DYING"(Hope God forbids in the future) as a major part of his gameplan to try and squeeze a win. Vitali was just the better man and Arreola can live to fight another day and I'll be waiting to tune in. Hope this fight doesn't damage him mentally or physically, I would be REALLY pissed/sad if I find out anything bad happened.

    The man is a warrior, Mexicans might not have great heavy fighters but this guy is someone to be proud of, seriously. Yeah his skills are not A class but he's not D either, will all alone can win him future fights and I'm sure the will is there.

    Who was able to land that much of Vitali and force him to work in the ring?
     
  2. Scar

    Scar VIP Member

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    Good post.
     
  3. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    I think you're WAY over the top comparing even Wlad to Ruiz, let alone Vitali. But you're right that Vitali's KO record exaggerates his power. That said, Arreola did stand up to ten rounds of punishment from a guy who was at least a class above him. And considering I expected him to be disposed of early, I'm impressed.

    I was also impressed with the desire to win he showed in his post-fight comments. That's refreshing. Like I said, he really seems to actually CARE about winning.
     
  4. KobeIsGod

    KobeIsGod Who Necks?!? Full Member

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    Yeah I definitely underrated his punch resistance but u never know til they step up to quality opposition. We had seen Nips get decked by C-Class HW Walker and stunned by Mccline. Big guys but haven't really stopped any quality opponents. Vitali is heavyhanded but it's clear Wlad's right hand has a lot more power since it's so quick and straight. Vitali's is the best overall puncher though cause he so busy and can deliver punches from crazy angles. Guys just can't take that for 12 rounds.

    I think Wlad's jab, right hand would have given Arreola a lot more problems. Arreola just can't block punches right down the pipe.
     
  5. Bazooka

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    I am not way over the top in comparing Wlad and Vitali to Ruiz, Wlad started pulling this **** when Brewster knocked his ass out, Vitali for some reason felt last night he needed to hold for no reason.

    You know this game Zakman, and you also know excessive holding is a foul especially when there is no reason to hold, he had the right ref to allow it but come on now, was there any reason he should have been holding?

    like I said it gets me is he had the balls to bang it out with Lennox and with only one eye but not here not with Arreola why?
     
  6. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    **** you: everytime I have a legitimate complaint about your character, you show an inner excellence and willingness to man up maturely that I envy. Why can't you be an *******, like a lot of people on this forum? :twisted:

    I think you make a very, very good point about Arreola's will to win... In the ring. The question is, can he show a similar will to win in the gym? If so, he could still be a champ one day.
     
  7. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    What can I say man? It's part maturity, part the way I am. I think as you get older you just don't care too much whether you're right all the time. Being wrong is okay.

    Some folks seem to think I care about this - like it's some life or death thing! All I care about is the potential excitement of being getting one of these wild predictions right every now and again, for the thrill of it. If I gotta eat some crow in between, that's okay too! Part of the deal.:yep

    Anyway, you're absolutely right about Arreola - if he's gonna progress he has to harness that "in game" passion to drive his dedication to his preparation. If he's able to do that, he can be a formidable contender, and maybe a titlist. Otherwise, he'll probably end up on the short end of the stick.

    And you know, that's not as easy as people make it out to be. I'm not SO old that I don't remember what it was like being in your 20s. Whatever work you had to do, going out with your buds for some beers is ALWAYS tempting. The challenge is to discipline yourself, and it is not easy to do. I hope that Arreola is able to use that passion to restrain himself when needed.
     
  8. RDJ

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    You'll get my full respect back if you admit you were wrong when you said the Holloway girl "got what she deserved" because her parents could afford a holiday to Aruba.

    I will then admit I'm often wrong as well and that a lot of what I say is fueled by raw emotion that even I can't rationalize.

    ;)
     
  9. Marnoff

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    Arreola proved me wrong. I was sure he had a shaky chin prior to this fight.
     
  10. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Well, this gets a little into lounge material here, but I will say that if I said "deserved" that's over the top. As a staunch opponent of the death penalty, I don't believe that anyone "deserves" to die.

    However, I do not back away from the central point of my remarks, which was that poor people get killed all the time, and this gets no attention at all, which is yet another injustice in this society. That's why cases like that **** me off.

    I will also say that I now understand better why these remarks struck a nerve with you, and in that sense, I most certainly apologize, as I had no idea of your situation. I was actually looking for an appropriate way to raise this when that recent situation came up in the lounge, but could never seem to find the appropriate way to do it.

    Okay, now let's get back to talking about CHINS! I'll even confess I'm a little disappointed that Arreola's turned out to be more solid than I thought!:lol:
     
  11. manhattanboxer3

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    arreola showed he has a great chin last night
     
  12. Axe

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    Chin and heart.

    His next test: work ethic.
     
  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Like I said, this is his big stumbling block. His challenge is to convert that IN RING passion into a passion for preparation.:yep It's not an easy thing to do, in any field, honestly.
     
  14. RDJ

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    I'm actually glad I brought it up now, I had my doubts because I'm a little drunk. It bothered me because I respect you as a poster, and while you go a little further than I'm willing to go, I actually agree with a lot of your political ideas.

    I understand that those cases **** you off as well, I have similar emotions when I see some bleeding hearts sticking their necks out for the slime of the earth while no one ever helped my family. People spending their time voluntarily on convicted murderers because they feel sorry for them, things like that.

    Let's leave it behind us then :good

    And indeed, back to egg chins. This had no place here but I'm glad I posted it anyway.
     
  15. Jack

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    Good man.