Arslanbek Ruslanovich Makhmudov vs. Mariusz Wach & Simon Kean vs. Shawndell Terrell Winters RBR

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  1. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only thing that is impressive in Makhmudov is his power. His skills is very average as well as his speed and he was KO'ed in amateurs so his chim might be questionable as well

    He is basically the Russian version of Deontay Wilder, nothing more than that

    I'm pretty sure old (but pre COVID) Povetkin from Hunter/Hughie/Whyte I fights would knock Makhmudov out - deffirent in skills between them is immense
     
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  2. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's Wach's problem.

    If he doesn't learn to move his head and chooses to stick his breezeblock head in the way of punches, how is that the opponent's fault?

    Some people CHOOSE not to be good at things despite participating in them
     
  3. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look how far Wilder got.....
     
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  4. Big Ukrainian

    Big Ukrainian Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, it's Wach's problem of course and it always was. The same goes to Ustinov, whose chin went from being granite to being bad because he was getting hit with everything constantly in every fight.

    While Foreman with his cros-defense, ring IQ, ability to counter and his own scary power presented much more difficult challenge at the advanced age. He was just great fighter, that's it.
     
  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He was also almost 49 not 42

    Not sure why people are so keen to see Arslan fail. Nothing I said was unreasonable, his power is legit scary. Beterbiev has ridiculously heavy hands for a LHW, well in terms of heavy hands Arslan is like a 250-265lb version of him and if he lands those shots on anyone in the top 10 the same thing happens and that includes against the toughest guys with great beards like Hrgovic, Joyce, and Parker.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    'How would you like to know if Arslanbek Makhmudov is so strong?

    Last night, at the Casino, Makhmudov terrified and knocked out his opponent.

    But here we are talking about Jason Bergman. It was his 45th fight. Not to mention dozens of rounds against Deontay Wylder, Oscar Rivas or Tyson Fury.

    In other words, mileage in the body.

    Bergman was shot down in two minutes. Pif, paf, boom.


    I found it in a corner of the Casino that served as a locker room for blue boxers. He was receiving his pay check from a board member.

    He was kind and affable and I asked all the questions that came to mind:

    "His strength is really special. He knocks hard and heavy. It is obvious that he still lacks experience and that he strikes when opening. But it's the guy who hits the hardest I've faced, "he said.

    Wow! Minute.

    Bergman made eight rounds against Joseph Parker, he worked with Deontay Wilder: "Wilder's right is faster, more accurate. But it's less strong than that big Russian. It's not a joke, it's not an exaggeration, "he added.

    With Rivas

    Bergman, who spent a few weeks working in sparring with Oscar Rivas, was still impressed. Short question, long answer. Genre:

    - Can Quebec fans ever hope for Makhmudov in the world's elite?

    - Definitely yes. He still has to learn, to shorten his strokes, but it is a force of nature. No doubt. It's an experience to face it, even after 44 fights.'
     
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  7. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  8. sasto

    sasto Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mak has a solid cult following for an EE prospect but his fights are kept hidden like Stalin's sex tape.

    Someone should tell them that they can make money by showing Makhmudov boxing on television and streaming services.
     
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  9. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    This was a career best win for him and he looked good I guess, but not incredible. This was a fair step up, although he has a long way to go.

    Mak seems limited to me, but he certainly is fun to watch.
     
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  10. Big Ukrainian

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    Yeah, I think his power is legit, definitely. I think he would have stopped 42-years-old version of McCall as well. I'm not qeustioning his power at all.

    But power and size are the only things he has. You can't compare him to Beterbiev, who has the same type of power for his weight class but is many levels above Makhmudov in every other aspect of boxing
     
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  11. FastSmith7

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    Holy ****... Wach went down?!
     
  12. f1ght3rz

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    Makhmudov didn't look great here, lost a few rounds. But i guess it was part of the plan. Get some rounds. Get in some "trouble" for his standards. He looked like he wanted that this time. Wach is a tough guy and its hard to look great against him.

    Makhmudov is one of the biggest questionmarks of boxing right now. Nobody really knows how good he is or how sturdy is chin is. I saw him getting rocked and stopped in the amateurs so it was good to see that he can take a solid punch from Wach last night. But maaaan he hits hard. Wach was done and out.
     
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  13. NEETzschean

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    I've thought for a while now that Mak's ceiling is lower than Wilder's. Wilder has far more speed, more length and probably more toughness to go with the insane power. Wilder also has more agility, better stamina and apparently better accuracy, though far less mass at his natural weight. There is no way that Wilder would drop rounds to a 42+ year old, 14 months inactive Wach.

    But Makhmudov is still extremely dangerous on account of his otherworldly power, size, aggression and amateur pedigree. Fighters who don't have really good chins and a lot of speed and skill won't do well against him. He is vulnerable in a shootout but the same applies to the other guy, very likely to a greater degree.
     
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  14. pepsiclassic

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    It might take a higher skilled boxer to see just what level Mak is at.
    I remember for a couple years everyone was saying Beterbiev had no skills just power and had zero chance vs gvosdyk,
    and mark ant was posting fouts videos that were 20 minutes long saying how Beterbiev had literally zero chance.

    Of course I know Beterbiev has skills.
    I'm not sure about Mak. he did knock out someone that had never been knocked down.
    The knockout showed power but it more showed strength because he was able to be in a position to land what felt like 20 shots.

    I dont think people are signing up to face him
     
  15. pepsiclassic

    pepsiclassic Well-Known Member Full Member

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    his strength too. which allows him to keep a massive guy trapped on the ropes.
     
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