Arthur Abraham vs. Jermain Taylor

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  1. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Does anyone else see this fight being very similar to the Taylor/Wright fight. AA has that same earmuffs defense that Wright has but he has more power. However he's less active than Wright, but still I think the matchup is very similar.
     
  2. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Let us also not forget that JT is coming off a KO loss in a fight he was ahead in the very last round. This has to play into AA's hands. AA is faster than froch with better defense. JT only had froch down from a combo of a well timed punch and carl's bad balance. You have to favor "the king" in this fight. If JT loses this fight inside the distance he should consider dropping out of the tourney alltogether, and be replaced by Allan "ghost
    fraud" green, so we can rid this sport of a real pretender.
     
  3. gambleer

    gambleer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Taylor will need to win at least 9 rounds to get a decision in Germany and that probably won't happen.
     
  4. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    JT wouldn't drop out, even if he got KO'd his first two fights, he's got too much pride to drop out.
     
  5. 1ytownfan

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    He lost to Pavlik cause he got ktfo in the 7th. Thats not running out of gas, thats getting KTFO. JT will still beat AA.
     
  6. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Are the judges in europe really that corrupt? I'm asking seriously, I know the Valuev/Holyfield was clearly rigged, and I've heard of a few other fights where guys were robbed.
     
  7. christo

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    True that, so his team should make him. Seriously, If JT gets KO'd in the 1st fight it's irresponsible to let him keep fighting on. He has alot of money
    and a beautiful family at home. He HAS to win this fight or just lose a close decision.
     
  8. mgdb26

    mgdb26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He said after the fight that he used up too much of his energy in the 2nd round after Pavlik got back up off the canvas. He said himself that he had run out of gas.
     
  9. 1ytownfan

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    Come on. You train for a 12 round fight. Even if you waste to much energy in the 2ND round you should still have something in the tank. Thats an excuse for getting ktfo in the 7th. Now i would say he gassed in the 2ND fight.
     
  10. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    I'll get flamed for this, but I've been thinking it might be good idea for Jermain to spend most of his time in training focused on his finishing skills. Abraham is not this invincible monster that people claim he is. If Miranda knew how to finish he would have finished AA in their first fight. Arthur made it through because he had a lot of help from the officials, and Miranda went ape-**** and started fouling like crazy.

    Jermain is one of the best 6 round fighters in the world, and he likes to start fast. Arthur likes to spend the first 3-4 rounds studying his opponent. Don't give him that opportunity. Just come out guns blazin', hurt him, and put him away. Risky, but it would shock the world, and it might just work!
     
  11. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Abraham is not a southpaw, and his jab is not even on the same planet with Winky's, and neither is his defense.
     
  12. christo

    christo Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    So, by that notion your advice to a fighter who gases in the 2nd half of a fight is to come out guns a'blazin on a guy who covers up and moves for the first 3-4 rounds? OK. I'm glad your not a trainer. JT's best hope is to just stick to his basics using the jab and alot of lateral movement, and then dropping the right hand when AA tries to counter. If jermain sticks to the plan that nelson will surely draw out, he should outpoint and maybe even start to run away with the fight and earn a stoppage. However, he has to fight smart and retain his balance and energy level thru 12. This is a big "if" with jermain.
     
  13. Two Shakes

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    Boo,on paper that sounds like a great strategy and could really take AA by surprise,but what sort of mindset will Taylor have ? I dont go along with the "Taylor gassed" scenario,but Taylor is a better fighter when he is dictating the pace,should the plan not work it would take something out of Taylor,and knowing the shady decisions in German boxing rings over the years,he'd have to be really busy for the remainder of the fight.Lets hope he thinks the same way and takes AA out early.:good
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    You bet your ass "that's a big if" with Jermain. That's why I was looking at a different approach, and it would be TOTALLY unexpected. Arthur gets away with standing around doing nothing for the first several rounds because he fights hobos and bag ladies. If a fighter of Jermain's caliber just jumped on his ass and mugged him, he might not get away with standing around like he's waiting for a ****ing bus!
     
  15. mgdb26

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    If he did that he'd be drained by the fifth round. The two times he's been KO'd were when he came out guns blazing and got early round knockdowns. He needs to start real slow and do as little work possible in the first few rounds because AA isn't gonna be doing anything so JT should just do the minimum amount of work possible (which isn't much) to win the early rounds. He needs to wait for the middle rounds when AA starts trying to brawl and opens up so he can counter him. I just don't see any way JT KO's AA, he needs to beat him on the scorecards so he better be doing some intense training so he can last till the final bell.