Arthur Abraham vs Kelly Pavlik

weight problems? well, there's the excuse that'll come from the Abraham lovers.
I can't imagine Abraham going down though, just another clinic like in Pavlik-Taylor 2.
Pavlik by UD

 

I used to think this would be a good fight. Lately I've watched quite a bit of video of Abraham, and looked a lot deeper into his resume. I do not have time to write a detailed post right now. Suffice it to say, Arthur's resume is thinner than my hair, and the single most overrated aspect of his game is his power. Against Pavlik he will be over matched, out gunned, and put to sleep.

 

Both have great power, but Abraham has one shot KTFO power and Pavlik is more of a accumulation puncher, and even though Pavlik can win a decision, I think that Abraham will catch him while hes up in points.

 

You know, the fact that you try to discredit AA with every post probably proves that you´re afraid he might beat your boy Pavlik.
It seems like you´re trying to convince yourself of Pavlik´s chances and the more people believe the **** you write the more real it becomes in your mind.
Now you even say his power is overrated.That´s just sad...

 

I'll have more to say this evening. Right now I have to TCB, but here's a little food for thought.

Height
Pavlik 6’ 2 1/2” Abraham 5’ 10” Difference 4 and a half inches. Advantage to Pavlik

Reach
Pavlik 75” Abraham 72” Difference 3” Advantage to Pavlik

Total number of fights
Pavlik 35 Abraham 28 Difference 7 fights Advantage to Pavlik

Total rounds boxed
Pavlik 139 Abraham 167 Advantage to Abraham

KO percentage
Pavlik 85.71% Abraham 82.14% Advantage to Pavlik

 

A guy who got knocked the **** out by Raymond Joval went 12 with AA. Nuff said!

 

Both put Miranda down several times. Yet people say Kelly is an "accumulation puncher". So, take that one common opponent and make your case other wise that AA has greater power than KP.

 

What about the chin? The internet myth says KP only took shots from Miranda when Miranda was backing up and no leverage. That my brother is absolute bull****. Some people need to actually WATCH THE FIGHT! There are several points where KP took multiple flush shots while miranda was coming forward. Not only did Pav's jaw remain intact, if you watch it in slo-mo, it's obvious Kelly just didn't give a ****.

 

He gave Miranda his due after the fight for his punching power.

 

^ Complete nonsense.nut:nut

 

To me, this is a pick'em fight. I'm not prepared to make a prediction and am not sure the fight will ever happen with the stakes as they are now. It's difficult to imagine that these guys can stay at 160 forever.

Pavlik to me would win the fight if he is able to stay on his feet. He fights at a pace that Abraham won't be able to sustain, and especially in the USA he will get credit for being the aggressor.

Kelly also has a reach advantage and throws straight punches that will constantly bang into Abraham's guard.

On the other hand, Abraham is not the kind of fighter who needs to be coming forward. Unlike Miranda and Taylor, he is entirely comfortable against the ropes and working out of a shell as a counterpuncher.

He also is more explosive than Pavlik IMO and throws the kinds of punches that should connect cleanly on Kelly.

The question is what kind of damage Abraham can do when he does land. To win, I think he needs a KO or at least a KD or two.

And at this moment, I think you can make an argument either way whether that would happen.

 

See that´s your problem. You look at results and go from there to make your assumptions.So AA´s KO percentage isn´t as high as Pavlik´s or AA didn´t knock out certain fighters means his power is overrated?
So what, my little sister probably woud go the distance with AA because sometimes against certain opponents it seems like AA doesn´t give a **** or has a hard time to motivate himself.You think that will be the case against Pavlik?!
And i´m not gonna try to even start debating whether AA has more power than Pavlik.Most objective fight fans will acknowledge that AA certainly has more one punch power.

 

I did not say Arthur has no power. I said his power is over rated. He does not hit harder than Miranda or Zuniga, and there is no ****ing way he hits harder than 180 pounds of Bernard Hopkins. The common theme in these threads is always the idea that Abraham only needs one good shot, and he'll spark Pavlik. That is absolute bull****.

 

Suprised by the poll results. Will you all have a change of heart when you remember just how good KP is after he destroys Rubio. Seems to me his doubters are only taking the Hopkins fight into account when assessing KP. AA is good, but he's no Hopkins.

 

On ESB Arthur's KO of Miranda gets him vastly over rated, and Pav's loss to BHop means he's a bum! Speed combined with smart movement trouble Pavlik. Abraham has neither.