Arthur Abraham VS Kelly Pavlik

Can't see AA beating Pav unless Pav walks into a absolute haymaker. AA is a great finisher and it'd be very interesting to see whether Pav could shake off the effects or would AA finish the deal. Think Pav has been getting better and better and if he gets through the Hopkins fight undefeated it'll be a huge learning experience. Not sure about AA's level of opponents yet. Also his high guard could be split by Pavs straight right all night long. Don't think either are avoiding the other and as long as both can keep themselves in the middle weight division it'll be made. Would love to see both of them eventually move up as the super -middle weight division could really catch fire.

 

I dunno. I could see a SD. They are very similar, it will be a battle of the jabs

I think maybe Sylvester is on more of an upward curve while Sturm has stagnated. He was impressive against Castillejo, broke him down perfectly over 12 rounds, and knocked out a solid chinned fighter. Maybe the edge in power will help too.

I will go Sylvester, but not suprised if Sturm eeks out a decision, as he's a little more mobile and precise with his movement.

 

Exactly my sentiments:good

 

Sturm is a bum, AA will knock him the fk out. This fight will not happen as Sturm's promoter is scared to death of AA. The fight has been refused in the past by Sturm's handlers.

Sturm mainly lives from his fight against an out of shape DH. What else has he done?

 

Here's a couple factors to think about.

Sometimes Abraham's right hand is absolutely perfect. However, every once in awhile he loads up everything from his toes up, and lunges forward with it. If he does that against Pavlik, KP will make him pay dearly for it.

Pavlik also throws picture perfect right hands repeatedly. However, every now and then, when he misses a right hand, he falls in REALLY bad. If he does that against Arthur, we are going to find out just exactly how good Pavlik's chin is or is not!

I've heard many people compare Abraham's shell defense to Winky's, but that is a seriously flawed analogy. Arthur does not have those inhumanly long arms that Winky has. Consequently, when he goes into his shell, the lower part of his body is wide open. Pavlik does not get a lot of credit for it, but he is in fact a murderous body puncher, especially with the lead right. However, throwing lead rights to the body of a shorter guy can be very dangerous; especially a guy who may explode without notice like Arthur.

Sometimes a fights outcome pivots around who makes the first serious mistake rather than who has the most skill. That may prove to be the case in this one.

Personally I think that Arthur's tendency to go to the ropes, or hide in the corner, coupled with his inactivity, will cost him this fight. Trying to hide in the corner, and fight 45 seconds of each round, is not a winning plan against Pavlik.

 

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Pavlik wants to get some confidence before he even considers AA

 

I know this for a long time and finally some "respected" (for whatever reason he is?) source chimes in with me...but as far as discussing this one - I am tired, man. I will only give ya the points when we are at it...

...but still I'll front the haters: sure, AA must be a bum - Why you call him that way? Because he he fights some. But just look at the facts: 160 is a damn weak division (even weaker than the featherweight). You can't claim legacy if not for fighting the champion and if he (for promotional reasons - fight the least, earn the most) don't want to play the game than that's it.

AA and his promotion is just desperate to get this one oppertunity, anywhere.
But if not for 2009, than it will never be for the crown at 160.
And to speak of Kelly: Fine, he beat Taylor twice (fighting trough adversity in both ones) - but besides a similar opponent in Miranda (we shouldn't get into this - this jawbreaking punch could also have happened to Pavlik) both beat about the same quality of opposition BUT Abraham beat his far more deceisively (Kelly had some KD on his own whereas AA was only stunned once vs. Eastman, right after the Englishman fought Hopkins, losing 8-4 rounds to the then-undisputed champion.

So only b/c AA never got the chance to fight someone like Taylor (don't tell me ****, saying that Taylor gave him the chance instead of Spinks - at the moment when AA was about to make his comeback after an 8 months layoff after his inigual fight with Miranda; no one with a financial backround like AA would have done this to his career) or Hopkins (and YES, styles make fights and AA would be really a harder nut to crack for Hopkins b/c of his defensive, slow-paced style).

So here we are - at a point where it's all about the puppetmasters behind each man and with keeping the bad economy in mind, HBO will restrict their business to the US. There really ain't much hope of an Abraham feature on it anytime soon...

 

And Rafeal knows diddly **** about Pavlik's plans. He is saying the exact ****ing opposite of what Arum and Team Pavlik have stated clealry. Pavlik will most likely fight the winner of Winky/Williams (Winky) and then AA.

Just like I said on another thread: Right now you could smear Abraham with horse ****, and he still couldn't draw flies in the USA. No one outside of hard core fans even knows who he is.

If you know the history between Pavlik, Wright, and Williams, I think you'll have to agree that Kelly is probably itching to get either guy in the ring with him. It would also make good promotional sense to put AA against a good opponent on the undercard.

I used to think that KP/AA was a pretty good fight. However, I've been watching a lot of tape of Arthur lately, and he is in for a serious, possibly life changing, ass whoopin'.

 

KP is too busy fighting ATG's like Rubio

 

Well he is a top 10 MW nad after all the MW division doesn't offer much anyway.

 

He could move up & fight guys his own size!

 

No,at 168 most of them would outsize him.Hell Hopkins outsized him and Bernard is a former MW himself.
Kessler,Bute,Andrade,Bika are all bigger than him physically.
Guys like Froch and Taylor are his size.

 

Taylor, who is possibly the number 1 if not 2 guy at 168 is his size. And after 1 fight, he could definetely get used to the weight. And besides, boxing isnt all about picking on smaller opponents, good fighters cant beat bigger guys, ala Antonio Margarito

 

Your obsessed with Margarito and Mayweather.
Pavlik can't go up and fight cuz he ain't nothing at 168,he losses his power,his speed,his footwork is terrible.He basically is a much worse fighter.Taylor would beat him clearly at 68.