Arthur Abraham vs. Piotr Wilczewski, March 31st 2012

are you saying that anyone should be able to stop fighting claiming that he got stung by a bee or come up with whatever excuse and then get a NC or TD rather an KO loss if he was getting beaten at the time he quit? seriously after all its still a combat sport and not a soap opera. the reason why that fight was stopped was that Bozic turned away and quit. No one did even know if he really was injured like its pretty much always the case in those situations. until today no one knows if Hopkins was injured who even refused to let the ringside doc take a look at his shoulder and then just turned an attestation from his family doctor in and got a NC
Abraham didn't do anything wrong, it was not his fault that his opponent was wincing and whining rather than fighting. he outlasted his inferior opponent, whether he was unable or unwilling, fair and square and therefore won the fight, legitimately.

 

Go WILK!!!! :happy:happy:happy

Looking forward to seeing Masternak, too. Haven't seen him in action in a while. Waiting for him to step up competition, hopefully this will happen in his next fight since this is his debut with Sauerland.

 

This is actually his second fight with Sauerland. But yeah, hopefully he gets a good opponent soon :deal

 

As long as theres no foul and one is either unwilling or unable to continue he loses by tko because thats what happend, he can't fight on so he got technically KO'd. and rightfully so. what does it matter whether the injury was caused by a punch or not? nothing. why did Barret got injured? i don't really remeber that. If he made a mistake, a bad step whatever, he had to pay for it, if his body was too weak, he had to pay for it. no one else is responsible for his knees. Valuev wins. you commit a foul, you lose by dq unless it was an accidental foul ie the non injured boxer wasn't more at fault than the injured one or the injury isn't serve enough to warrant a stoppage and yet the injured boxer quits.

Bozic claimed his hand was broken, they did a scan but the bones were fine and then he went home. later he claimed the hand was bruised. if so, then was that injury serve enough, and its painful, to warrant a stoppage by the referee or the ringside doc if they knew about it theoretically? probably not. yet Bozic quit. Bozic decided to stop the fight, no one else did. A fighter cannot choose to quit and then expect anything but a tko loss. this is against all nature. you cant stop every fight in that someone maybe bruised a hand, finger or suffered from a torn finger nail. If after a couple of round Wilk claims that he suddenly got a migraine and can't fight on, he'll lose by tko as well.

 

I agree with Escopeta. Also, it was McCline, not Monte Barret who ****ed up his knees.

A funny quit was Andrew "Six Heads" Lewis in his second fight with Denny Dalton, where he got stomach problems and had to use the restroom immediately.

When a boxer or his corner decides to stop, the boxer loses. Unless of course you are Thomas Damgaard against Christopher Henry. One of the most shambolic robberies ever, but I guess it is not widely known outside of Denmark.

 

:yep

 

Damgaard won against Carribean journeyman Christopher Henry back in 2004, after his own cutman stopped the fight! atsch

Damgaard was cut by punches in the earlier rounds, and is denied to start the round six by the cutman. That was clearly shown on TV.

Damgaard was nr. 1 WBA contender at the time, and (suprise, suprise) the Danish Pro Boxing supervisor works his magic on the spot and have the fight go to the scorecards where Damgaard was ahead.

Damgaard never got his WBA-shot due to a combo of injuries and politics, but he got that fight with Gatti two years later.

 

the fix is in the only way AA loses in Germany is if he gets KTFO by a guy with 10 KO's??????
AA was exposed long ago as a one trick pony, who cares

 

May i add -
Wilczewski earns a win that should rightfully be KO/TKO neighborhood: Officially Abraham wins by Disqualification

 

Thanks for your contribution That was hilarious. :good good boy.

 

just start off with asking google for "Abraham Not Surprised as Bozic Found To Have No Injury" IB. and even if he was injured, i still don't see how you can doubt legitimacy of Abrahams victory over him. Bozic refused to fight, while i understand that this fight wasn't fully satisfying and didn't ultimately prove that Abraham is shitting all over Bozic, boxing is an event based sport. Everything went fair and square and Abraham was the superior fighter that day. That was the reason why he was on his feet while his inferior opponent was crying. So there has to be a result that respects what happened in the ring. Speaking of Denmark, i remember when Marcus Beyer fought Kessler, he splitter fractured his left hand on Kesslers ribcage. So that was a serve injury that then basically ended his career but he didn't quit, he was ready to leave it all in the ring and eventually got KTFO'd. So I don't see how someone like Bozic who quit like a fraud could possibly get away with a proper result on his record. You know, how Bozic basically deserves to get honored for his failure to withstand the pain whats just a part of the sport and refusing to fight while he was leaving his opponent, who didn't do anything wrong, who was on his feet and ready to fight, had trained hard etc, just there in the ring stealing the opportunity to hand out a proper beating from him just because of his own weakness. Great fighters overcame such things and found ways to win, not so great fighters still did beat less competitive opponents despite serve injuries etc some even entered the ring with worse injuries than Bozic suffered. But if someone gets handicapped in an evenly matched fight, hes usually gonna lose on that night. Lets say Helenius who came up with some medical evidence that he actually bruised his hand, similar to what Bozic claimed happened to him, in that Chisora bout and lets assume there were fair judges and Chisora walked away with an UD12 win. how could it be justified that Bozic gets a NC and Helenius a loss after Helenius at least tried to fight on more or less bravely? boxing is about blood sweat and tears and if you cant keep it up for any other reason than a foul that was committed by your opponent, you lose because you was inferior to your opponent on that day. no one is forced to fight at gunpoint and can stop fighting at any time but then you have to bear the consequences and that is to say a tko loss. once quitting becomes presentable in boxing, boxing could quickly become a WWE type farce or like soccer in Europe where the players perform triple somersaults once they get touched a little bit, while its perfectly fine to use your body with the rules of that sport, and spend half of the match time with faking, whining and complaining to the referee and once someone starts to behave a little manly he gets send off the field. Because thats what the human race is turning into fat, lazy, whiningly cushy excuse making people where ever you look. I don't think that there should be any room in boxing for such developments and that it would literally kill the sport