Arthur Beterbiev Vs Anthony Yarde prediction thread

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heerko koois, Jan 23, 2023.

Beterbiev or Yarde ?

  1. Beterbiev

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  2. Yarde

    7.6%
  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Smith has fought

    Beterbiev
    Bivol
    Eleider Alvarez
    Maxim Vlasov
    Sullivan Barrera
    B-Hop (ancient, shot)
    Andzrej Fonfara
    Jesse Hart

    Alvarez, B-Hop and Fonfara were knocked out

    He dropped Barrera hard in round 1 but suffered a badly broken jaw shortly after and it clearly affected and hindered him greatly

    Vlasov was hurt multiple times, dropped and arguably saved from a stoppage loss by the ref

    Hart was dropped and he was also hurt a few times and this is despite him running and holding all night

    Bivol was badly hurt by a big right hand over the top at the end of round 10

    The only one he didn't badly hurt, drop, or stop is Beterbiev

    Smith is a very hard puncher

    He was a part-time fighter for much or even most of his career

    Otis Griffin on Joe Smith



    Yarde has fought

    Kovalev (well past prime)
    Lyndon Arthur

    Now go take a look at his record and see who his 3rd, 4th and 5th best opponents are?

    He obviously hits very hard and is faster, slicker and has better accuracy than Smith, but he's fought trash and it's a disgrace he was gifted one title shot, let alone two

    That being said, it's a dangerous fight for Beterbiev because Yarde is talented, does hit very hard, has fast hands, picks some classy shots, is a good finisher and he's much younger and fresher and Beterbiev is 38 and is fighting him in his backyard
     
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  2. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    'That dude is a fricking moose' :lol:
     
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  4. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  5. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I feel like there is a lot of record capping going on. i just know what i see is two inside fighters, one is 31 the other is 38, one hits harder but the other has better experience hits faster and maybe more precise (Beterbiev.)

    Im noT to focus on opponent rating, fighters improve and adjust their style to other fighters, how many good boxers have loss to average fighters and went on to win championships? Im not looking at just records, Beterbiev is hittable and can be knocked down, he isn't like floyd who is defensive and doesn't take abuse, he meets you at the center and absorbs punches which means he will eventually reach his peak end sooner.
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Excellent points, I've been wondering when age will raise it's head against Beterbiev myself. Sooner or later age causes fighters to hesitate when pulling the trigger ,especially against a quicker fighter. I still think Beterbiev will probably win, but as a bet 5-1 is an excellent opportunity to make some cash in an upset, I'll consider it.
     
  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Beterbiev whenever he wants, but if Yarde really just let’s it all out I expect a Callum Johnson type fight.
     
  8. outtieDrake

    outtieDrake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i regret saying its a 50/50 maybe its more 30/70 but i like the odds for a heavy hitter. i small sprinkled a ko prop 750+
     
  9. iii

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    The problem for Yarde boi is Tunde bloodclat, he needs im gone & fas...
     
  10. Serge

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    I think you mean record padding. I've followed both Smith and Yarde's careers and Yarde's CV is horrific. Smith has fought and beaten the far better opposition and it's not remotely close. And he is a very hard puncher indeed.

    That doesn't mean I don't think this isn't a risky fight for Beterbiev or that Yarde isn't a dangerous customer and can't win against an aged 38 year old Beterbiev. I think it is and styles make fights. But Yarde's level of opposition is some of the worst I've seen for a one time world title challenger, let alone a two time one.
     
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  11. outtieDrake

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    Record capping is a gambling term, or wiki capping, when you don't rewatch footage but you go off a wikipedia page or boxrec and make a decision. Yarde fought guys with over 20+ fights and won. Cmon you think Yarde can't beat old man Hopkins? You think Yarde would have gone to a split decision with Jesse Hart? He has a padded record.

    It's quite obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that Yarde hits harder than Joe. Listen to the sound his punches make.






    I honestly don't get the appraisal that Joe SMith gets, his fighting style is ugly and very brawler like. He likes to duck his head low to get into the body , that is why Beterbiev destroyed him with low elevated hooks.


    joe smith's incredible boxing :time stamped.

     
  12. Serge

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    Did I really just see a Yarde fan criticize another fighter for having a padded record or did my eyes deceive me? :risas3:

    I actually watch the fights and I don't need to go off Boxrec or Wiki pages. Maybe if you did the same you'd be aware of the fact that Yarde resume is as padded as it gets and with the exception of a well past prime Kovalev he has not fought anyone above domestic level

    Lyndon Arthur is by far his best win and Arthur's record is very padded

    Yarde is 1-2 against Kovalev and Arthur

    What are his top 5 wins?

    Here's a thread from the Brit forum dedicated to the stellar opposition he's fought. That's how terrible his opposition has been

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    You'd also be aware of the fact that the only reason Smith's fight against Hart was a SD was because of a corrupt judge scored it to Hart by a round even though he was dominated and it wasn't remotely close. And the only reason Hart didn't get knocked out is because he ran and held all night like a female dog even though he was trying to avenge his mentor B-Hop's loss and avenge it for Philly too

    'Joe Smith Jr. beat up and knocked Jesse Hart down - winning their fight by a shocking split decision in Atlantic City, New Jersey Saturday night.

    Two judges scored the fight correctly, 97-92 and 98-91 for Smith, the third needs an eye exam as he somehow saw Hart winning by a 95-94 tally.


    Maxboxing scored the fight 98-91 for Smith.



    'Hart, who came in as the favorite, never really looked like he came to win tonight, giving Smith Jr. so much respect that he was essentially running laps around the ring from the opening bell. With Hart hesitant to sit down on any punches because he didn’t want to trade with the bigger puncher — mostly looking to survive — Smith Jr. just took that as an invitation to get a head of steam, which he used to maul Hart along the ropes over and over again.'


    'One judge shockingly had the fight 95-94 for Hart. The other two made up for the appalling single score with cards of 97-92 and 98-91 for Smith, who won by split-decision.'


    'Smith knocked down Hart in the seventh round, which widened his win on the scorecards of judges Eugene Grant (97-92) and Joe Pasquale (98-91). Judge James Kinney somehow scored the fight for Hart (95-94), who spent the final three-plus rounds simply attempting to survive.'


    Smith has fought

    Beterbiev
    Bivol
    Alvarez
    Vlasov
    Barrera
    B-Hop
    Fonfara
    Hart

    His record is far from padded

    Yarde has fought

    Kovalev
    Arthur
    And a bunch of D, E and F level bums from the UK, Eastern Europe, South And North America, many of whom are total featherfists

    I'm not talking about Smith's skills. I'm talking about his power and his vastly superior level of opposition to Yarde's.



    I think Yarde, despite is abysmal level of opposition and super padded record, is talented and dangerous and I give him a better shot against this aged version of Beterbiev than most do. Because he's fast. Is a big puncher. Is a decent counter puncher. Is a very good finisher. And because he has home advantage and is a lot younger and fresher than Beterbiev with way less miles on the clock. He does certain things better than Smith and I expect him to, at least, have success against Beterbiev due to that, but Smith has a way better resume and as of now his power is proven against a much higher level of opposition than Yarde's is.
     
  13. kirk

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    So if I make Yarde vs Beterbiev round 1 of a prediction tournament, you would go ahead and pick Yarde? Would you mind joining the tourny if I add it then?
     
  14. outtieDrake

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    Stats don't show a lop sided fight, it shows that Joe dominated 5 rounds by a margin of 10 punches landed.

    The rest of the fight was very low output and could have gone either way. Some judges favor a jab over a power shot.


    Which one of these fighters can Tony beat?

    Alvarez
    Vlasov
    B-Hop
    Fonfara
    Hart

    the answer is all of them. Joe Smith run is not something phenomenal. based on Yarde's last performance he is capable of beating all of them and i would argue he could beat Barrera. You seem to forget he gassed in the Kovylev fight because his coach said to blow all his cardio in one round, an experience fighter who once knocked down Andre Ward. How you're going to hold it against him for losing to a season vet with that experience?
    So many people here get hung up on star power and name recognition. None of these wins mean anything.

    If you think on Saturday Beterbiev is going to have a walk in the park, well you're going to be disappointed when you see him gushing blood and breathing heavy from body blows. he's in for a dog fight, and at 38 father time is going to take him out.
     
  15. outtieDrake

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    sure post link .
     
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