Arthur/Guzman situation!!!!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by The Exile, May 17, 2008.


  1. The Exile

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    Well there seems to be a lot of **** taking for the way Alex Arthur has got the WBO Title in the last day or so and to be honest its complete bollocks.

    Arthur has been interim champ for what seems like ages now.

    Guzman has vacated the title, is that Arhurs fault - NO

    Arthur has fought his way up to become interim champ legitimately by beating who has been put in front of him and whether its right or not he is now the champion of the WBO, due to the fact that Guzman has decided to move up in weight, is this Arthurs fault - NO

    People on the boards are making out like Arthur hs been pussying around when its pretty obvious, visa issues aside, Guzman was never going to make weight for the fight which is shown by the way Guzman has went straight up a weight.

    People talk as if Guzman is some kind of unbeatable monster which in all honesty is pish!!! What has he done lately to deserve this accolade????

    Guzman was a beast at the lower weight class he fought in but lets be honest, what the **** has he done and who has he beat recently to be considered anywhere near p4p level?

    Guzman in my opinion does not want to travel over to Scotland for a fight for whatever reason, he done the same with Harrison at Featherweight and now he is doing the same with Arthur.

    In my opinion he would more than likely beat Arthur but at the end of the day he didnt have the balls to to do it.

    Folk will say he wants the bigger fights bla bla bla Guzman is one of the most overrated fighters on this board and if he was a brit people would be saying he needs to prove himself at the weight etc.

    At the end of the day Arthur is now champ, not a paper champ as people say as Guzman decided to **** off up the weights rather than wait a month to fight. Not ideal but hey thats the way it is!

    Guzman moved up rather than fight Arthur so how anyone can slate Arthur for something beyond his control is beyond me.

    Absolutely none of this fiasco is down to Alex Arthur.

    Im sure this situation is ideal for Warren but once again is that Arthurs fault - NO.
     
  2. TFFP

    TFFP Guest

    I havn't noticed these posts myself, but I've not been in the Arthur threads much

    I agree with what you say, it's not Arthur's fault at all. Warren needs to get him a meaningful defence, so he can put these jibes to rest
     
  3. joekirkbycobra

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  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    It doesn't make Arthur a top fighter, because hes not and hes got a belt on a platter. He hasn't done anything to be a deserving champion, and hes nothing more than a paper titlist.

    Remember Guzman was ready and willing to fight on the initial date, after getting his visa sorted. Arthur was reportedly injured and not ready for the fight and they were going to pull out and used Guzmans visa situation as an excuse

    Why are you talking about Scott Harrison, he pulled out of 2 dates with Guzman and wasnt ready for the final date, Guzman rightfully dumped him
     
  5. GazOC

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    I agree with the OP, its exactly what I've been saying....
     
  6. The Exile

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    As much as it isnt Arthurs fault, the fact he is now WBO full champ means that it is highly unlikely that Warren will put him in with anyone dangerous.

    I expect a cpl of defences against domestic/euro level fighters before Arthur moves up himself.

    I expect Arthur to probably fight and convincingly beat Mitchell, who i dont rate, and then at some point move up and fight Khan for what would be a huge fight on these shores.
     
  7. The Exile

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    As far as im aware, didnt Guzman pull out of the fight with Harrison :huh
     
  8. The Exile

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    Just read your posts, and it seems like we are reading from the same book.

    A lot of unjustified hatred for Arthur is going on here.

    Whether you like him or not, none of this situation is of his doing in my opinion.

    I still think Guzman is seriously overated on this forum, im not saying he isnt good but he is not even close to how much people rate him on the forum.
     
  9. PowerPuncher

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    Harrison pulled out twice (maybe 3 times), they postponed and postponed and Guzman moved upto 130 pulling out of the postponed date. I think Harrison then pulled out of the postponed date with a replacement but I could be wrong on that last part
     
  10. The Exile

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    I do remember the Belfast fiasco with Guzman pulling out but my selective memory isnt allowing me to recall the others :lol:


    Seriously though, when Harrison pulled out of the original date for the fight wasnt it a good bit in advance rather than waiting til the last minute, i may be wrong as the old brain bank is a bit fuzzy this weekend.


    On a side note, i have to say i am seriously gutted at the way Harrisons career has went down the shitter but in all honesty he only has himself to blame. With the recent arrest id have to say that at his age it looks like it is finally game over for the Real McCoy.
     
  11. Haye

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    Arthur is not a paper champ. He became champ because Guzman was too scared. He earned the belt fair and square, and is a throwback champion Scotland can be proud of.
     
  12. rumour24tiger

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    To be honest I think they were always hoping for Guzman to vacate, that the trip to the UK and the weight making troubles being just enough to put Joan off the fight so that he could move up to lightweight.

    There had been rumours that AAA was going to pull out, that he was injured, that he couldn't make the weight. Before the visa fiasco. Did either man want to fight the other?

    Mitchell may do what Steve Foster Jr couldn't quite do, and that's beat Arthur. The weight is killing AAA and it'll be enough for Mitchell to grind out the hard win. Should be a great fight, as Kevin takes too many. I mean, it's not just like he takes a lot, but he takes them completely flush, time after time.
     
  13. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    just line him up for kevin mitchell. :bbb

    then we can shut these whining jocko's up for good. :yep

    take it to the bank. :deal
     
  14. jc

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    I dont blame Arthur for Guzman pulling out, he has played by the rules and if i like it or not has inherited the WBO belt. Any claims of him being world class I will take with a pinch of salt until i see him fight a top 10 fighter.

    As it is he is a good European title level fighter who has had a bit of luck with boxing politics to get hold of a paper title.

    Though i will say If Arthur and Kevin Mitchell were fighting on the same night on different cards, itd be Mitchell who Id pay to see.