Article in sports science says it's 'IMPOSSIBLE FOR A REF TO BE 100% IMPARTIAL''

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  1. DEFoverOFE99%

    DEFoverOFE99% Active Member Full Member

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    87 of the top 100 scientist leading in the field of human science have concluded that a previously unexplained section of the brains hippocampus about the size of a US. Dime has a direct link to another section of the brain about the same size located in the Hypothalamus and although this conclusion is not unanimous of all 100 scientist involved in the study 87 of them agree that these two sections of the brain communicate directly with one another and have no other input from other brain functions and the sole purpose of this section is to influence conscious thought on a primitive survival based basis by influencing thought regardless of the reality being experienced in other words the only reason for this section of the brain to exist is to apply Unconscious Bias into conscious thought in order to sway Decision making the reason this important in the field of sports science is this finding suggest that it is impossible for say a referee in a boxing match to be 100% impartial and he more than likely dose not realize he is doing it.
    What do you guys think? Pretty interesting anyways something to think about.
     
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  2. rocky1

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    That's probably correct however they lost me when they mentioned "unconscious bias" which more often than not just means we think this is happening but we have no way of proving it.
     
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  3. DEFoverOFE99%

    DEFoverOFE99% Active Member Full Member

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    My thinking is that "unconscious bias" is like a suspicion or prejudges against some one (bias) based on nothing factual that you don't realize your exhibiting (unconscious)
     
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  4. TheJuggernaut

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    I think its impossible to be 100% impartial about anything at all. EVERYTHING is filtered by your own likes, dislikes, preferences.....whether conscious or unconscious a bias is unavoidable, however small
     
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  5. boxeo#1

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  6. Bogotazo

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    Complete omniscient objectivity is not a human trait. I don't think the question is whether someone can be 100% impartial, but whether it is a negligible or significant amount. If something subconscious and isolated in the brain unrelated to experience or conscious judgment were heavily tipping the scales I think a lot of people would be alarmed as it would have repercussions beyond sports. All that passage tells me is that it's something less than 99.999999...

    Interesting stuff though.
     
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  7. DrX

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    yeah no ****....
     
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  8. DEFoverOFE99%

    DEFoverOFE99% Active Member Full Member

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    this study imho adds a lot of merit to the effectiveness of fighters and there handlers planting seeds i.e. he leads with his head he uses the elbow he holds to much watch out for the rabbit punches ect ect
     
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  9. CrossedLine

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    This is an obvious study i believe; they need to know more about this piece of the brain to count this as anything worthwhile. Its like my Behavioral Biology class, some scientist won big money for DISCOVERING that animals do what is best for themselves at the time. Boom.
     
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  10. Kurushi

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    Yeah, putting studies aside for a moment this is not a revelation but it feeds into the larger discussion (in all sports) about to what extent are video replays necessary and if, or how, we should apply them. I'm not a football fan (UK football) so maybe someone can correct me but I understand there is great resistance to bringing in video replays whereas in rugby my understanding is teams are given a limited amount of opportunities to refer to video replays. I think in the name of sportsmanship we should rely on human judgement, warts and all, but there is definitely a place in boxing for referring to actual video evidence. For example, if a fight is stopped and there is uncertainty as to whether it was the result of an accidental headbutt or punch. These are people's professional records that are on the line.
     
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  11. DEFoverOFE99%

    DEFoverOFE99% Active Member Full Member

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    :good
     
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  12. PabstBlueRibbon

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    What is the % on how many refs are fair but firm?
     
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  13. Boxed Ears

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    Later they explain the theory behind the assumption that pissing on one's shoes makes them wet.
     
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  14. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    I dont think a study needed to be done to realize that. total impartiality is inhuman. we're too emotional for that.
     
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  15. MAG1965

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    they do the best they can. The way scorecards are so far off shows bias towards certain fighters. Sugar Ray Leonard used to get credit where other guys didn't on the scorecards.
     
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