This really isn't true. The wholes subject is subjective. 50% of fans will think Manny is a drugs cheat, if he never boxes under random drug tests
Let's be real here. Do you think the Floyd/Shane testing will catch a cheat ? With a proven steroid user ( Shane ), the wada stopped testing 18 days before the fight. The *****s will argue , it's random.atsch The Olympics and Tour the France are both random testings, I guess nobody's is taking steroids anymore ( Olympics & Tour the France ) because it's random. :huh
Pacquiao fans do this all the time. Dan Raphael says every week that the fight hasn't happened as they can't agree drug tests The only people claiming anything else, are either fan writers on pay pr click sites, trying to drum up web hits, or just biased sites You know, mainstream opinion isn't that compicated. Read a few articles They just say, Mayweather and Pacquiao couldn't agree a deal over drug testing What's not actually true about that?
Again, if someone wants to make sure that there is no PED effect, then it's hard to see how a 7-day cut-off date is going to stop a fight. If you really want the fight. It appears to me that Mayweather is hoping the issue, and how it got started, becomes conflated. Forget about how Manny felt about the Morales fight, and forget about Team Pac not wanting to give in to Floyd unconditionally. Don't worry about cut-off dates that essentially ensure no PED effect. Just keep going around and saying "take the tests!", make some T-shirts, and some persons who may or may not be using reason to decide things will accept your version. Wise PR strategy by Mayweather. I will give him that.
I expect you to show me where Manny has made that claim between the 1st Morales fight and before negotiations? where has the blood work being a factor come out? it hasnt all we knew was Winnings gloves and Distractions. I was at wildcard when that fight happend, and the truth is it was not blood, it was distractions, it was the gloves, there was **** going on during camp at that time, Murad Muhammad was ****ing Manny basicly robbing him blind, then you had hundreds of Philipinos distracting Manny by showing up to the gym each and every day (This is why they now shut that gym down) in addition Freddy Roach was not aware of the Winnings gloves until a few days before they left to Vegas, Leaving Manny with no time to prepair with those gloves. When they came back from Vegas nobody was talking about Blood work, Freddy basicly took charge and started closing the gym when Manny would train, and making sure that the contract is fully read prior to signing it especially when it comes down to the gloves. Nothign about this Blood work came up until after Manny refused OSTD to fight FLoyd.. you want to know why? Becuase its not the truth thats why.
You don't really get the point Random drug testing is a deterrant. It's not designed to catch everyone It's a system which, in truth, makes it very hard to cheat. And hence, athletes don't try. Some do, but in general, not knowing where tests are going to be, puts almost everyone off. Manny or Shane would not use steroids, if random drug testing was going no. Theres no way they'd risk their reputation
Bob Arum doesn't want this fight to happen...thats why you see him as the face of the **** talking towards Mayweather...Because he knows if and when Manny loses; its a wrap for his cash cow...The actions of Top (SK)ank have put Manny in a no win situation...Personally; I didn't believe he was juicing at first; but the denials and excuses made him look very suspicious...But the most troubling things about all of this; is the **** people spew at Mayweather; yet praise Pac for it...From discrediting Mayweather's win against Mosley; to completely overlooking De La Hoya's weight when they fought...To Boxing historians like Bert Sugar "Flip-Flopping" on Mayweather regarding Marquez...How does Arum himself say Marquez looks terrible at WW; yet schedules Manny to fight him two years later at the same weight..Its comical...I feel Floyd; after beating Ortiz; should use the post fight interview to call out Pac...Say; if you are willing to take the tests; contact Al Haymon and lets fight...period
Right, there is this argument: No test can catch everything, so why try to have a higher level of tests. That is, OSDT can't catch, say, gene therapy. So, could Pac still be called a "user" if he passed OSDT. Is the Tour De France "clean" because many aren't caught? The argument about "taking the tests" easily falls into absurdity. That's why their is a general boxing commission standard that all fighters must adhere to.
You need to look at the bigger picture Manny has no choice now but to go into a negotiation, and accept full random drug testing. He has no choice now. If he says no, his reputation would be in ruins. Nobodies accepting this again. So hasn't Floyd got everything he wants now?
OSDT is a detterent If you're being tested, randomly, every single week, it's basically impossible to try and take anything. What athlete is going to risk taking anything, if a tester could turn up 2 hours later? Cheats like pre planned tests, as it creates large windows, where they can do what they want There are no windows in OSDT
He could have and would have probably won. He denied it for years, and addmitted it in 2010. He also admitted taking Andro in 1998, but that wasn't illegal in MLB. No one caught him using.
I'll try to find something if I can. I know I have seen something from a few years ago about this. Or, I'm nearly certain. Now, you have your own version of what happened. Why do we believe you and not, say, Ross Greenburg? Or the leaked Pac/PBF negotiation info? You see how this works: Why is your version the "correct" one? If a fighter thinks he lost because of some reason, that's in his head. Again, it is known Manny is superstitious. He has Arum come out the same time or whatever before each fight to the Philippines. Could he have put the Morales loss on blood testing after the fight, at some point? Sure, why not. Did he? I don't know, he says it was that. Again, so, you try to both accommodate that supposed issue and make sure there is no PED effect. Make a reasonable cut-off date, for a series of tests that aren't mandated by any commission. And that apparently happened, and one person supposedly balked at it all. So, here we are.
Seriously kid, you need to clear that **** up, you brought up that bull****, I have since called you on it, and you have since then lost the urge to discuss this matter with me, did you go on Vacation?
The USADA don't accept a 7 day cut off. As they think it allows for EPO use basically. Floyd wants OSDT. 7 day cut off is not that What you're saying is not really true A 7 day window of no guaranteed testing, is more than enough to dope on EPO and things like that The USADA say 2 days max.