Article on old school vs new school training

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  2. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Excellant article. I for one favor the old school training based on the older era was better schooled in technique and had better stamina. I think new school training started in the late 80's early 90's
     
  3. JIm Broughton

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    Let's make championship fights 15 rounds like they used to be and I'll bet we'd see a return to the "old school" way of training pretty quick. This would force many fighters to drop the excess lard or bulky muscle and really get into shape. Unfortunately I doubt that we'll ever see that but it would be nice wouldn't it?
     
  4. birddog

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    same day weigh in's also need to come back, in addition to the 15 round tittle fight. At least a welterweight will be WW, not a middle on fight night. If your a middle on he day of the fight, then your a MW.

    As far as training, methods will always evolve. And there's a reason for the old tried and true also. MMA guys swinging hammers and flipping tires is pretty old school.
     
  5. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the old way is definately proven to be better for conditioning.
     
  6. asero

    asero Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    how about the futuristic style of manny pacquiao
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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    The article is full of generalisations, different boxers train differently, different gyms train differently, few champions train the same in any era. Some fighters in the past would have great stamina through training and go for long runs etc, but many champions/contenders would not train particularly hard or be the best physical specimens.

    Another typical myth in assessing modern exercise routines is that of resistance training. There is a myth that resistant exercises such as press ups are superior to resistance exercises such as incline dumbell press, the later has more corss over with punching as it stimulates muscles that actually. As are power cleans and power jerks

    I also want to know exactly how many old timers could do 50chins, you won't find many if any and you won't find any at HW
     
  8. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    it worked and the new method works aswell

    its 6 in half a dozen really

    i would favour the old school method though
     
  9. jdempsey85

    jdempsey85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Old school of course id rather axe down a tree anytime than sledge a tire.

    Great article
     
  10. Legend X

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    I wouldn't be at all surprised if a lot of the smaller guys could.
     
  11. Legend X

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    I always say the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
    And there is more than one way to skin a cat.


    That's all that needs to be said about the 'training methods debate'.
     
  12. Legend X

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    Sledging a tire is old school surely, even if it's back in fashion.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

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    Incidently a guy like Archie Moore would be new school in that he used weights and considered himself 'a professional dieter'

    Well they wouldn't, doing that number of chins straight in 1 sitting is borderline world class chinning, 20-30 is very good P4P strength and looking at most boxers they didn't have the back/bicep strength to do that. Actually I'd expect modern boxers to get more chins given the greater focus on strength work
     
  14. Legend X

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    what do you mean by "borderline world class chinning" ?

    I know a couple of guys that can do 50 chin ups. And it's just a hobby for them, training on bars. I'm sure professional boxers have had as much time and energy to train chins as those guys.

    Obviously body weight is the most relevant factor.
    (That's why I'm **** at chins ... despite be able to barbell row for reps with 110kg and Deadlift up to 250).

    It's the lighter guys who can do this stuff.

    There are loads of videos of chin ups on youtube.

    Check this out :

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA0_yfKPPw8&feature=relmfu[/ame]


    11 ! That's her age and that's my PB on chins (I do 7 - 9 at the moment) :lol:
    No way could I dream of doing 21
     
  15. Legend X

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    Notice the little girl doesn't have any massive back or anything. You can't just look at a little guy and say he doesn't have the biceps and back for chins.