Article on old school vs new school training

The girl is likely been trained as a gymnast or by an over enthusiastic father and her doing 20-25 pulls ups is impressive, even though they aren't done at speed. Your friends likely take strength/chins seriously and if they do hit 50 consecutively that's very impressive regardless of weight. Doing 50 chins is a tiny tiny percent of the population, few boxers would hit that level even if they are training hard

Most boxers did not take their strength training seriously in the past, even with the floor exercises. They'd take learning the art of boxing seriously but few pushed their bodies hard in training, especially strength training. The likes of Willie Pep are notoriously lazy trainers. There are exceptions to that rule and I'd guess someone like Saddler to be a very hard trainer. Their match ups being a massive contrast between pure boxing skill and brute strength

 

All totally true.

How many road miles do you think Jess Willard or Primo or Buddy Baer logged? Meanwhile, we know for sure that Marciano ran a marathon every other hour. Different approaches work for different fighters.

And yes, let's get the 15 round champion distance and same day weigh-in's back.

 

'Weights' is quite a term for quite a broad range of training. Archie Moore used weights though, Mosley, Haye overly used them

It takes allot of training science to get the right training programme for

I'll tell you something not many people know. 1 problem with most weights exercises (or press ups for that matter - another weight exercise just not on a bar) is the resistance at the end of the lift is naturally not as strong as at the beginning of the lift so it actually can encourage de-acceleration at the end of the movement. This is obviously not what a boxer wants, he wants to train his fist to be accelerating at the end of the movement no de-accelerating despite being able to conjure up greater force

This is something that can be counter acted by picking the right exercises (cleanes/jerks/snatches - all very difficult to pull of the correct techniques) or using different equipment, ie adding chains/bands to the bar so it adds more weight/resistance towards the end of the movement. Thus a boxer using such techniques would be a faster more explosive puncher as a result

All this aside strength training should be focused on weak links, ie weak muscle groups, usually the core, ie weak abbs/lower back is the areas that can limit the overall strength, speed and power. Notice the example you pick up of not using resistance training in RJJ has an incredible core

Haye said he believed he needed to bench press 400lbs and deadlift 600lbs (those numbers are from memory, but trust him to be lazy and deadlift instead of squat). Mosley supposedly bench pressed 350lbs and deadlifted 500lbs (from what I've heard so not sure on the sources). Kostya Tyszu a student of the Soviet scientific training focused on weights, he bench pressed 275lbs and cleaned and jerked 275lbs, he put that on his site I think - pretty impressive considering his size and shoulder injuries.

Holyfield enrolled Dr Squat (Fred Hatfield - who squated over 1000lbs) and Lee Haney to help him gain weight and strength. Hatfield didn't give out the numbers out on his lifts but said he wouldn't be quite as strong as Tyson