Article on Tyson vs. todays top heavyweights. I agree with all the calls. [url] This content is protected [/url]
Damn good Article M!..I agree with all of it except Tyson losing to Vitali...I dont think he loses to either brother..Vitali is a slow starter and thats all Tyson would need to wrap things up before the 6th round. I say Tyson KO's Vitali within 4.
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I dont see a prime Tyson running out of steam that easy..Plus he would know going into these fights that he would HAVE to put both Russians to sleep early. I think he would be up to the task!
Tyson could not put Tucker or Smith to sleep. He could not put Green to sleep either. These were big guys who really did not opt to fight back Tyson's record vs. big guys who wanted to fight back in Lewis, Douglas, and Bruno is not great. IMO, Tyson was a bully type. When things went south on him, he did not come back. He would face a lot of adversity in this fight for sure. Outside of an early KO, I think he's in trouble.
Your defiantly right about the early KO. Tyson would for sure be in trouble if he really couldnt shut them down early. His fights against Tucker, Smith, Bruno, Green, and Douglas (who he obviously didnt prepare for) are very good examples tho!..For sure it makes one wonder cause ive never known why he couldnt put Green and Tucker away..He would defiantly be a show of great heart, will, and chin on both Russians part,I just dont see Tyson losing to both guys.
Ahhh the old myth that Tyson A. folded whenever anyone fought back and B. couldnt defeat larger men... If you wanna argue Tyson was "prime" when he fought Douglas we can agree to disagree. I personally dont think a coked out, drunk who spent his training camp banging a rotation of Japanese hookers and getting made to look ordinary by his sparring partners is really indicative of a prime Tyson. To use his fight with Lewis, when Tyson was a walking corpse, is laughable. Even then Tyson went full at Lennox in the first round and had Emmanuel Steward nearly in tears over the way Lennox fought scared. He also took his beating like a man and kept coming forward round after round. Hardly a guy who caves at the sign of trouble. This of course ignores the fact that nearly everyone Tyson fought was the bigger man and his style was perfectly suited for countering punches from a taller man. Its funny his fights with Bruno, Tucker, and Green are being shown as weakness on Tyson's part. Bruno landed one decent punch despite getting slaughtered in two fights. Tucker was only stopped three times in his career, every time coming past his prime and despite having significant advantages in height and reach Tyson dominated him and even outjabbed him. Green has never been knocked out, he was stopped once on a TKO in his first fight after 7 years off when he refused to fight, when he fought Tyson had only lost once and that was to the much more experienced Berbick. Tyson maybe lost a round of that fight and blasted Green all over the ring. Thats how highly regarded Tyson is in his prime. Even when he dominates if his opponent lands a punch, or manages to stay upright somehow Tyson has shown a weakness. The standard hes held to is incredible. Any other heavyweight today with stats like that would electrify the sport again, but instead we are left with the Klitchkos who bore the **** out of everyone.
WOW, are you saying that Tyson was past his prime when he was 23 for the Douglas fight? If so, please tell me when Tyson was in his prime, and when he was actually tested in his prime? He wasn't. When you a big time puncher, its easy to knock out old men like Holmes, small heavies like Spinks that were scared stiff, or a fat guy with limited power who didn't want to be there in Tubbs. I do not know if Tyson was distracted in camp, but Douglas was distracted as he lost his mother in camp or just before camp started. As I said before the Douglas fight, Tyson was exposed a bit with Bruno. IMO, Douglas won because he was better that night, not because Tyson was shot. The best big men Tyson fought gave him trouble. Regarding the Lewis fight, Tyson basically wanted to quit in his own corner between rounds prior to the knockout. And he fouled out vs Holy like a coward, and ended his career in shame quitting vs. a no name. Mike's intangibles when tested ( Few could ) were on the weak side and he wasn't injured in any of the above fights I am talking about.
Right on!..I thought I was the only one..watchin the Klitchkos fight is alot like watchin Star Trek in Spanish, I just cant do it!:good
Therese no way Tyson was past his prime at 23 against Douglas..He just simply took him to lightly, wasnt training, and the fact that Buster just lost his mother was a combonation of bad decisions on Mikes part.
I expected something a little more in-depth. That article could be written by just about anyone here.
Who the hell is Vitali Klitschko at the end of the day? A nobody. He spent a career fighting nobodies from only the WBC rankings while his brother fought the rest of the division. He still lost twice. He was savaged against past prime Lewis in his retirement fight while he was in his prime. The best guy he fought after Lewis also stopped him and he retired for 4 years because he refused to fight Rahman. No great fighter loses to shot versions of the previous era's champion. Vitali losing to Lewis would be lke Marciano getting stopped by Louis, Holmes losing to Ali, Tyson losing to Holmes. Vitali fought like a total can against an old , slow and one foot in retiement Lewis and ended up stopped in a bloody mess. He couldn't tie down Chris Byrd to save his life and quit because he didn't like being hit constantly with counters. At no point ever in his career did fight a guy remotely close to Mike Tyson let alone beat a guy closly to him. Vitali is all if and buts, he be trouble for this guy and that guy. Nonsense. He never proved it. Ever. He never achieved anything near greatness in his career. He went up against faded greatness and got stopped in 6.
Vatali will be forgotten and mostly for the reasons you expose here. Im sorry but to me Vitali or Wlad and greatness just dont belong together. Some fight fans look down on Lewis and praise Vitali because a second fight didnt happen, but I agree with Lennox in that he had nothing else to prove, He'd been there done that!
Maybe forgotten was a harsh word. Never been behind on pts, and never being KO'd is just a sign of what a joke the HW division has become. Ofcourse your gonna have a high KO ratio when youve spent a better part of a decade fighting circus clowns. The Russian brothers are big and strong and thats it. There boxing skills are a joke, there opponents are a joke (except the ones they lost to).