Article on Tyson vs. todays top heavyweights

I don't hate Vitali. I enjoyed watching him.

I enjoy Danny Garcia , he's one of my favourite fighters. Skill and career wise Vitali doesn't come close to him. Garcia isn't an ATG. He doesn't beat former great welters and he doesn't have to. He's a good fighter of his generation. Just like Vitali is , but he is no more than that and his career has proved it.

Same with Wlad. Taking out a long list of bums does't make him great. He also never looked like a great fighter and he looked like **** against all the best guys he fought. The two other best guys he fought knocked him out. Being real don't make me a hater.

 

Really? From various sources around the 'net:


"The few studies that exist suggest that little to no performance gains are incurred from cocaine and its amphetamine-like properties. Cocaine is notable for distorting the user's perception of reality; for example, an athlete may perceive increased performance and decreased fatigue in the face of actual decreased performance in both strength and endurance activities. An increase in heat production combined with a decrease in heat loss associated with cocaine abuse impairs the body's ability to regulate its temperature during physical activity."


"The effects of cocaine on performance are minimal and are limited to increasing arousal and alertness with low doses. As the dose increases, detrimental effects such as reduced co-ordination and unwarranted aggression are frequently reported."


"No matter how it is abused (e.g., snorting, smoking or injecting) most of the cocaine impacts the brain. Its use results in a euphoria that only lasts five to 15 minutes. Studies that have analyzed how cocaine impacts athletic abilities have actually determined the drug decreases the user’s performance. This is because cocaine makes the user feel so good, they perceive everything around them in a better light, including their own abilities. Researchers found cocaine to diminish an athlete’s strength, endurance and overall performance, despite the user’s distorted perception that they were improving."

And yet no mention of Vitali's fight with Lewis - the only war he was ever in - and his loss in that fight.

 

Tyson at his best should beat both brothers.

The Klitschko's are often compared to Lennox Lewis due to their size but they simply weren't/aren't as complete fighters. Lewis would have faired well against any version of Iron Mike, win or lose, but the Klitschko's lack the tenacity and short punches (particularly the uppercut) to get Tyson on a leash. Mike didn't cave in when you fought back. He caved in when you blocked all exits.

Most agree Wladimir would succumb due to his more delicate whiskers.

Vitali is tougher, no question, so he's going to stand more of a chance, but what from here? The difference between giving somebody trouble and beating them is considerable. While Vitali's confusing shots and hip-jab may cause Mike to tut a little as he closes the gap it's nothing he can't breach, and when he does Vitali's inability to punch short would give Mike that foothold he needs to thump out a win.

Vitali's footwork is laboured and he lacks snap in his punches. Yes, fundamentals would work against him here vs. the better schooled boxer; a slugger with a neat defence. It may prove ugly, a late stoppage or a points win, but Vitali's game isn't rounded enough to shut Tyson out. Mike had no trouble hooking jaws that bobbled around the 6'5" mark.

This present era has greatly skewered the reality of how a good smaller man would deal with a decent big man. Even people who know the game are falling for the idea that bigger is better. The inadequacies of today's bunch has flattered the Ukrainian duo. They are top fighters but there is little on their records (opponents not statistics) or highlight reel to suggest they would cast aside an enthused, disciplined Mike Tyson.

 

Viltali ranks lower than Golota in skill level. A terrible slow version of Golota was able to beat Byrd and looked nowhere near as confused and stupid as Vitali did. The very best version of Byrd was easliy blown away by Ike, a poor Mike Tyson tribute act. The skills of Byrd that didn't trouble Ike saw him through 12 rounds with Wlad. Tyson way past his prime destroyed Golota in 3 who his not much shorter than Wlad.
Neither brother has the skill or defence to beat great fighters.

 

Wlad doesn't have the chin to last against Tyson. Wlad hangs the left too
low, and his jab wasn't fast enough to not get countered. Wlad doesn't like
pressure. Povetkin is nothing like prime Mike. Get a grip.

 

FVCK the NET. Unless those sources are PHARMACOLOGISTS, and I mean PHARMACOLOGISTS they are not worth the effort it took you copy and paste them.

Every dick brained, self serving, politician, high ranking policeman, journalist, lawyer, and bull**** doctor, plus unfortunate parents who have lost a kid to drug abuse has an opinion on the effects of drugs.

Only pharmacologists study the subject.

 

I'd like to ask you a simple question.

Why do morons like you LIE to suit your own worthless agenda's?

It is well known ( apart from the official scorecards proving the fact) that VK was comfortably winning the fight against Byrd before the injury to his shoulder.

So there can only be 2 reasons for you to post such garbage.

1. You scored it for Byrd. In which case you are a know nothing idiot, or

2. You hate the Klitchko brothers, which makes you an even bigger idiot.

 

All three fought just to survive, its hard to stop a man who is only intent on lasting the distance.
Tyson was past it for Lewis, and not in shape for Douglas.Vitali's power is grossly overated, because he looks like a monster people assume he hits like one, he has a dig but nothing earth shattering. He tagged an ancient Briggs flush all night and couldn't put him on the floor .Lewis dropped and stopped a prime Briggs.
Tyson might be able to ruin the Ukranian's with body shots, I haven't seen them tested there.
Tyson's speed would worry both of them, and if he tags Wlad it's game over.
Wlad is gunshy, get inside and he lays all over you , with the lenient refs he gets he is allowed to, the guy is stinking arenas out

.He would be booed out of the ring in the US or UK.
As for coming through adversity, weathering rough moments and coming back ,Vitali's record is not too sterling in that department is it?

 

Tyson took monster punches from Ruddock and came back to win.
Wlad folded when tagged.

 

Merch, Foxey, and Dino are ruining classic. atsch

Every damn thread is these idiots puking the same worn out arguments back and forth into each other's mouths. They are like a bad parody of this forum.

For ****'s sake it needs to be said.

 

You're in a huff because some other clown is embarrassing you. Ive had no contact with you in here. Tell me what I said that you disagree with or else just stfu.

 

Oh really, pot meet kettle. Your repeated over and over verbal vomit.

" Cooper and Marciano have more in common with each other physically, and stylistically than Liston "

Fact.

Cooper, and Liston were both 73 " tall, ( 73 and a half in Coopers case if you want to be pedantic ) Liston had a huge 84 " reach compared to Coopers measly 75 " reach. Marciano was 70 " tall with a 67 " reach.

Not a lot in common there to any sane person, you however,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,?

Fact.

Both Cooper, and Marciano weighed 185 - 190, compared to Liston's 205 -210. Yep, there is definitely something virtually insignificant in common there.

Fact.

Marciano fought from a crouch, offensively, and defensively. Cooper fought from an upright stance would bend from the torso to avoid shots stand up again and punch.

Absolutely fvck all in common there.

Now tell us again about people repeatedly spewing out the same worn out garbage, over, and over.

Because they could never equal you, and you're ****.

It is self appointed " experts " like you who if they were half as clever as they think they are, would be twice as clever as they actually are, who are contaminating boxing sites on the net.

Arrogant know nothing pricks.