Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev vs Dmitrii Yurievich Bivol II & Vergil Ortiz Jr vs Israil Madrimov RBR.

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  1. NullaLexInk

    NullaLexInk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have no idea where I read this, nor do I know where to even find it now or what fight it was, but anytime I see rabbit punch all I can think about is this quote I read when I first got into boxing. Wish I could find it, this ain't even an exact quote so it prolly won't come off as funny, but just imagine reading this at the end of what was otherwise a pretty serious recap of a fight :lol:

    "Trailing in the cards, he managed to win the fight by knockout after successfully exploiting a weakness in his opponent's defense. Namely, the back of his head."
     
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  2. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    The AI Judge that Turki trialed in the Fury Usyk fight (2) was used tonight for the 2nd time and it scored the fight 116-112 Bivol.

    Bivol 1-3
    Artur 4-7
    Bivol 8-12.

    I can see as technology grows, it will become 2 human judges with the 3rd judge being AI.
     
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  3. RGBoxing

    RGBoxing Member Full Member

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    Maybe let AI decide Draws? Not sure boxing needs another way to fix fights though
     
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  4. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    AI judges..that would be incredible.
     
  5. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Their presentation is second to none.
     
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  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    H was, my post was in relation to the scoring
     
  7. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    I have always thought the scariest thing about Beterbiev was his ability to rabbit punch. Its disgusting how refs rarely call them. He literally clubbed Yarde on the back of the head when he stopped him.
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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  9. Rexrapper 1

    Rexrapper 1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He did but it wasn't anything I wasn't used to seeing from him. I do think Bivol played a part in him tiring but I also think age caught up to Beterbiev. Beterbiev came on strong in the 12th but the middle rounds he lost when he fatigued cost him the fight IMO. Similar to Bivol being fatigued in the last 3 rounds in the first fight and that costing him.
     
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  10. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    @CST80

    You can't beat a good British domestic scrap.

    Great fight. Even though my pick lost.
     
  11. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    The draw was closer to the truth than 116-112. It was a close fight that could have been judged for Beterbiev. Bivol stopped running just enough to throw flurries that more often than not caught gloves. Beterbiev was throwing more punches, which doesn't necessarily equate to a win, but along with effective aggression, is compelling.

    We need a jabbr.ai analysis. It was a high quality fight that went over the heads of people claiming Bivol won clearly. One round maybe, two if you really disregard everything Beterbiev did.

    Over the two fights, 1 all is fair as they are both elite.
     
  12. RGBoxing

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    I don't think anyone not named Bivol has much chance to even see the 12th even at 40
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bivol had to push himself harder to throw and land more meaningful punches. In the first one he didn't load up as much and he looked more like he was trying to survive. This time he really dug down deep down the stretch and made sure to show that he was controlling the action more even while fighting off the backfoot. Artur didn't really show much urgency until the 12th when he caught Bivol with that good shot that opened up the cut. Now if that cut had happened earlier it may have slowed Bivol down but it was already too late for Artur at that point.
     
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  14. Fogger

    Fogger Father, grandfather and big sports fan. Full Member

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    I'm not even sure I knew Pascal was still active let alone ranked. He hasn't fought a light heavyweight fight in almost two years or won at 175 in almost three years. Gotta love boxing.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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