Artur Asilbekovich Beterbiev vs. Joe Smith Jr. & Robeisy Ramírez vs. Abraham Nova RBR.

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  1. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    ugly footwork? beterbiev's footwork is HORRIBLE. As bad as it can be. I was just trying to be polite.

    mobile? sit on his punches "inmdediatly"? wtf! buy a pair of glasses.

    where to start? man? he moves his right foot first when he goes to left, and the oposite. His footwoork is plagued with unnecessary movements, you said fast? fast??? his footwork is slow as ****. He clocked john with his right arm when john jabbed, that's who he beat him. That easy, because john is as bad as he can be as well.

    Beterbievs boxing is mediocre as **** if you remove the inhuman power he has. Nevertheless his inhuman power counts too, so he's a hell of a fighter. But a hell of a fighter completely full of flaws.

    It's a pitty we will never watch beterbiev vs bivol, because they are what they are, but I wouldnt put much money on beterbiev in that fight.
     
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  2. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    It is so unusual for fighters to go toe to toe with Beterbiev that he usually does not get the opportunity to do what he did tonight. When fighters stick and move Beterbiev is afraid of getting outpointed and covers up more and it takes longer to find his opponent. Since Joe brought it Beterbiev responded in kind. No one goes toe to toe with Beterbiev and comes out on the winning end. This is why the Bivol fight is an intriguing match up.
     
  3. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    oh, as much as I hate kovalev, prime kovalev kills beterbiev in the ring. It's a shame we never watched that fight. Prime kovalev was way a better fighter than beterbiev.
     
  4. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Sorry Jack, I don't agree with you. It's a clear as day pattern with him. I stated, he's not landing full fledged rabbit punches, but targeting and teeing off on areas that are precariously close. It's the equivalent of Ward punching the beltline of Kovalev the entire rematch. It's not a direct blow, but in the vicinity, and the fighter starts feeling it. It's having the desired effects of fighting dirty, without going full on heel. So no, he's not landing a straight right to the base of their goddamn skulls, but he's definitely clubbing them on the top/back/side right over their ears as hard as he ****ing can. I would say it's a coincidence, other than literally every shot that put both Smith and Gvozdyk down, were borderline back of the head or back of the head.
     
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    So you're saying you think he's a sociopath? Well that kind of lends credence to what I've been saying now doesn't it?:sisi1
     
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  6. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    OK ... I didn't say they weren't shorter did I, but obviously far more damaging if someone is coming in onto rhe punch...
     
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  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev "It is not about survive opponent, I want to crush".

    Lmao. Well.....
     
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  8. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tbf to Smith, I don't think he fully recovered from that 1st round, maybe less bravdo & taking an 8 count would have helped ?...
     
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  9. grantsorenson

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    I didnt get the Smith backers. I guess you can't argue with those odds for taking a shot though.
     
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  10. iii

    iii Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They were.sort above the ear but Smith was ducking / moving si I don't think it was intentional to the back of head...
     
  11. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    ******s unable to understand in which round they are fighting. There are a lot of pro fighters like that (amazing!). Rounds 1 and 2 (and even 3 or 4 vs monsters like beterbiev) are NOT normal rounds.

    Someone brawling with beterbiev in round one should be given some money every month so that he can eat, because he is mentally handicapped, and we need to help people like that.
     
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  12. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    The beauty of boxing is that superior skilled boxers can overcome genetically gifted fighters like Berb.

    There are always weaknesses.
     
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  13. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    No more like modest, win like you won before type its a rarity
     
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  14. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    I agree. I think Beterbiev is a very modest person. Same goes for Bivol, and Smith for that matter. They are all good guys. I hate to see any of them lose but, objectively speaking, I think Beterbiev is the beast of the division, with Bivol having the ability to outpoint Beterbiev if he fights a perfect fight. We have all seen the previous fights. We saw that Smith rocked Bivol and that fight went the distance. It was a competitive fight but Bivol was clearly the superior fighter. That is why so many Smith fans thought he had a chance, though slim, against Beterbiev. Again, I think if you are objective, Beterbiev finds a way to catch Bivol at some point in their fight. Can Bivol remain elusive enough while landing enough to get the victory? I think the odds are not in his favor.
     
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  15. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    Bivol would NEVER take any risk in rounds 1 or 2. He would lose those rounds if necessary, but he would NEVER take any risks there. Period.

    Basically because his trainer is a freaking genius. I became more a fan of his trainer than a fan of bivol after canelo's fight. Genious level of strategy, a freaking 12 rounds length boxing lesson.

    All those monster-punchers like beterbiev, or inoue, or prime kovalev, are way way way way less of a monster puncher in round 7. Only idiots fight them in round 1 or round 2. An I dont know bivol, but his trainer is no idiot at all, and bivol is smart enough to obey him in the right.

    I wouldnt put much money on beterbiev, tbh.
     
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