Artur Beterbiev had an “atypical finding" for test and HGH

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  1. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury's nandrolone was an atypical finding which is why UKAD sat on the result for over 18 months. Nandrolone is produced naturally in the body and false positives have occurred in other sports. I know someone who does NHS blood tests for a living and it's very possible to fail for nandrolone naturally, normally if you've taken something it will be factors over the 2ng/ml limit. UKAD have never published what result Fury had I assume very close to the this limit which then requires further GC/C/IRMS analysis.
     
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  3. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just want to clarify something, this atypical finding is where your levels are not over the allowed limits(to fail a test), but his levels were elevated than the normal ones. Now you can make a case for test and h2h being produce normally, but your test is hitting a high NO in your mid 30s.
    This is in December, and he already delayed the fight, cause of supposedly "tooth infection". This is just ain't a good look.
    Let's be real he was cycling off, as people loves to say, and they messed something, but it wasn't too bad.

    Vada make him test after that, and his other test comes normally, and they let him off the hook.
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    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looks sus to me.
     
  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Don't act cocky this destroys Fury fanboys agenda and theory about Fury elevated levels. If his "Deca-durabolin(aka Nandrolone) level were just elevated, it would have been stated as this one, and he wouldn't have failed a drug test. When there is adverse finding, it means a failed doping test, when it's a atypical, it means elevated levels, and depends on the substance you can get away, if you have good excuse, aka body naturally produce this "stuff".
     
  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    There is only one question that anyone should ask, why did UKAD sit on a "failed" test for 18 months?

    I know the answer. Boxing is a dirty sport on every level. People can put people on pedestals but there is no righteous man in boxing, it's the fight game and the fight game is dirty. Both Fury & Usyk have TUE exemptions btw for corticosteroids.
     
  7. IntentionalButt

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    The problem with speculating in cases like this is that hormone levels in humans are often unpredictable and can spike for any numbers of reasons - so when it's something naturally produced in the body as opposed to a positive detection of a foreign banned substance, there's a burden of proof that's hard to meet.
     
  8. lordlosh

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    Bro the only way to have higher than normal Testosterone and HGH levels at 39 years old is by being on Peds.
    There is no way to have high level of test at 39 years old, and be natural.
    Not sure about HGH, as i never taken or read HGH, but for Testosterone i'm 100% sure in that.

    The MMA fighters for example get away with their claims of being on TRT(Testosterone Replacement Therapy). They claim they have low test, which is normal for 30+ years old men, and they get away with testosterone failed tests. :D
     
  9. lordlosh

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    Because Fury straight away start SUING the UKADA to make them silence. He straight away started a lawsuit. When someone did that, just like this piece of s**** Conor Benn and Whyte did, you know the person is guilty. Also the whole saga with the testicles boar meat and then the farmer says he was paid to lie, it's beyond pathetic.

    You Fury fans are better to say he served his ban(which is true) and not trying to argue about it.

    And you know i'm AJ fan, but i'm 1100% sure that he is on the heavy stuffs. There is no humanly possible way to have this type of muscles. Same for Ngannou btw, and many more.

    I have been on Peds(light dosage and light stuffs, like deca, test, oxandrolone, stanozolol and Metandienone), of course not all in 1 cycle. I have like 3-4 cycle in total. When i was a lot younger and stupid, but i pretty much know most stuffs, and knows how it works.

    Your body would never ever looks like that, even if you are on low % bf. The body just looks completely different when you are on Peds.

    And yeah it's very different for these athlete, compare to people who are doing it just for the look of their body, but still that's going to be the effect as well.

    You can never achieve certain things(aka certain looks to come body parts, like rounded shoulders for example naturally).

    But while i think and in my mind i'm like 99,99% sure this and this guy is on the heavy stuff i don't have the evidence, as they haven't failed a test yet. Then we can talk.
     
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    A forum darling looks to have been a naughty boy. It's OK, don't worry about it. He isn't Floyd or Canelo so it's ok. We will give him a pass
     
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    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For all our back and forward bs, thanks for this post. You don't know how frustrating it is to read stuff from people who don't know what they are talking about, thinking many of these guys are natural

    I too have used some PEDs

    Good post
     
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    The thing is i think they are not looking at the average for men, size, age, etc, but when we talk about elevated levels(not a failed test, aka over the limit in order to fail a test), i'm almost certain they compare to your own previous tests.
    When they test you over a certain amount of times, they have let's say your average results, and it's very easy to compare, you know.

    The thing is Vada let him fight, and the fight will go on, but it's s****, as if Smith loses, he has a pre-made excuse, which is just terrible.
     
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    They're all doing it. Who cares at this point.
     
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    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks like Brits decided it's time to bring the titles to Britain.
     
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  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I realize that, and would agree they probably compare to each person's established baseline. Individuals don't just stay at one level their entire life, though. Men aged 30-40 can fluctuate in T by 30-35% depending on what time of day it is.

    One test one time happening to be an elevated result from a previous one isn't itself indicative of any wrongdoing, much less proof of it. (hence the deliberate language being "atypical", not failed)