Artur Beterbiev had an “atypical finding" for test and HGH

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  1. velagod

    velagod Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I wonder how many atypical test findings happen that aren’t released, from sounds of this was only released because of pressure from Hearn and smith.
     
  2. Redbeard7

    Redbeard7 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Beat me to it.
     
  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

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    His head is huge man.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, there's a lot of doping going around. No news there. But no country has been as rampant as the Russians in Sotji 2014.

    And you forgot to say that the American's picked up the use of steroids from - yeah, you guessed it - the Soviets in the 50's. Wasn't illegal back then, though.
     
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  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Every athlete is on roids, me included.
     
  6. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I disagree, the Chinese, Cubans and Africans/ Caribbean countries have rampant drug use as well. Problem is that Russia is geopolitical enemy number one, so all eyes are on them. And the Chinese basically have influence over the world doping agencies. Every single elite American boxer is on the juice. Boxing didn't even start testing for steroids until the 90's. And that testing was pathetic.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Ever since Lance Armstrong I have lost all faith in professionals not doping
     
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  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Hopefully there's nothing amiss with this atypical finding and it's naturally occurring, but I'm not going to act shocked if it isn't. Clearly with his use of the rabbit punch over and over, he's willing to cut corners. So if a guy is a dirty fighter one way, it's certainly a possibility he's dirty in other ways. Kudos for Callum for having the balls to get in the ring anyway, hopefully he knocks him spark out for this potential infraction.
     
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  9. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Check out American Olympic doctor Exum Wade exposing rampant American drug use in sports in the 80's and 90's.

    https://www.espn.com/oly/news/2003/0416/1540029.html
     
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  10. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Mirko definitely was a saucy fighter, sure kicked hard.

    Damn finally someone who knows something about hormonal manipulation and how it relates to professional athletics. Let's go
     
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  11. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If a fighter has atypically high levels of endogenous hormones, then you would expect them to continually test at an "abnormal" level. Sudden spikes are only indicative of a mistimed cycle.
     
  12. Terror

    Terror free smoke Full Member

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    Steroids were able to be masked until like, Ben Johnson. You could just take masking agents becuase the tests were so ass. You didn't even need to "land the plane" so to speak, you could just blast right through and mask it. After that, you had to be 10% more clever but it was still so easy. It still is so easy. Holyfield never failed a drugs test, neither did Bonds, and neither have obviously doped athletes like many top heavyweights.

    Not necessarily, but almost 100%. Would have to see the levels. Test fluctuation is very normal and one of the main advantages of supplementation imo would be the consistency of test release vs. inconsistent natural production. Chris Weidman had an interesting one where he crashed his levels too low and had nearly no testosterone in his body at all for his pre-fight drugs test.

    He certainly doped, the metabolites say it all. Also HGH being high at that age and not appearing in tests before as you say is definitely another guilty verdict.

    But still morons clinging to Nandrolone boar bc their daddy roided and got gyno, or Clen Beef because they don't want to sully the reputation of boxing's last real cash cow. But Lamont Peterson did it for sure. OK.
     
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  13. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He’s too old to be testing abnormally high like this. But he’s popular on this forum so the excuses already are flowing.
     
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  14. peter_uk

    peter_uk Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with you; the testosterone finding is perhaps arguable but the HGH finding is not, and when one considers the odds of them occurring simultaneously it is even more damning.
     
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  15. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I remember the female East German swimmers winning gold medal after gold medal. One of them had her endocrine system so ****ed up, she couldn't be a normal female so she ended up living as a male for the rest of her life with a wife.
     
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