Artur Beterbiev had an “atypical finding" for test and HGH

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  1. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The simple fact is that no other nation has been found guilty of such endemic cheating as Russia in 2914.

    And couldn't a give quarter of a failed fart for this pro Russian apologist nonsense of how incredibly unfair everyone are to them so just get lost with that. I won't waste a second more on that nonsense.
     
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  2. Koli55

    Koli55 Active Member Full Member

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    A cheating Russian. I'm shocked
     
  3. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    Lordnosh has to shoe horn Fury in somehow :risas3:





    Awaits reply saying Fury is my hero :cheer:
     
  4. deadACE

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    Imagine saying African and Caribbean countries are on a par with European countries fo systemic cheating ffs. Its not even close
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is a known fact, so no need for it.

    Now the newest from Hearn is this:

    So Vada has informed Hearn and Smith team that Beterbiev results comes with increased levels of Tests and HGH, aka elevated levels, but still not over the limit, to fail a test. So this is not a failed test.
    But then Hearn said, but ain't a passed test as well. He also said under Vada rules they started to tested him further with additional testing, 3x tests in the next 3 weeks. Aka 1 test next week, another 1 next week, and another 1 next week. And all of the samples comes back with normal levels of tests and HGH.
    Hearn also said that while it's possible that this levels can be increased naturally by Heavy Training, squads, etc, etc., but then he ask why then his next samples, aka the further ones, in the next 2-3 weeks all come with a normal levels. If it was normally produced to higher level, wouldn't they still be the same ?
    This is actually interesting question by Hearn, and what he is trying to state is literally that he messed up with his cycle/masked agent, and then covered it up for the next tests.
    What he said exactly and was a bit ironically, did his level spikes high and then disappear ???

    Now i agree with Hearn on this one, and this is literally the most sus thing, okay you have elevated levels as you train hard and with heavy weights, squads, etc, etc. Then why the next 2 samples in the following weeks comes with lower levels, aka in the norm.

    Here is the deal though and why Hearn is a hypocrite in this one. He has used the get out of the jail 1 failed test, and then the next ones are all negative, how could it be possible ?
    We can use the same energy here, you use that thing as excuse to Benn too many times, didn't you. Oh he failed this and this tests, but his next, previous, etc, etc were all fine.

    Like who the f**** you are trying to lie, everyone knows that the athlete are using masked agency, and knows how to cycle. If it pops up it will be a 1 or 2 random tests, not multiple, unless your name is Miller of course.

    To be fair i liked Hearn in the past, but he totally lost it with me, over that cheater Conor Benn. Defending him blatantly, and trying to get away with lawyers, technical and jurisdiction b.c.

    And one last thing from me on this topic.
    It's turn out that it was Top Rank that comes with the info that Beterbiev had elevated/increased levels, few days before Hearn start talking about this. So it wasn't a leaked info from Team Hearn.

    But still if Beterbiev didn't fail a test basically, and Vada isn't banning him, and let him fight, and literally clear him(whether we like it or not), should that even be discussed then ?
    Beterbiev is basically clean.
     
  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Like I said last night, nothing to see here. No failed test, VADA passed him, this is gamesmanship from E-Hearn who is trying to get into Beterbiev's head and unsettle him and score cheap points against arch rival OG Bob. I could tell he was up to something from his body language when he was being interviewed about it. E-Hearn might be a promoter but he's not a good liar at all and it was so obvious he didn't actually believe what he was saying.

    And of course the usual suspects are circling like vultures around the carcass but unfortunately for them there's no meat on it. Move on and move out.

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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just a correction, and i had to correct myself, as i though this info comes from Hearn, and using it as a tactics to put pressure on Beterbiev, and distract him, it turns out that Top Rank comes out with the results of Beterbiev increased/elevated levels.
    At least Hearn said that Top Rank comes out with the info in the media, and it wasn't him or his team.
     
  8. Contro

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    I guess it can happen, my dad had his testosterone come back over 1000, outside of the reference range, and hes an old man, he doesnt even really work out, let alone take steroids.

    The only question is if Beterbiev is some kind of superfreak naturally, surely they would have noticed before not now at 38 when hes dieting for a fight no?

    The HGH is particularily weird since thats supposed to go down quicker and harder than testosterone after your late teens right?
     
  9. Serge

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    He's clearly using this as tactics to try and get into Beterbiev's head. Like I said, I watched two or three interviews yesterday and I could see as clear as day he didn't believe the words that were coming out of his mouth. He's a creep and a very devious snake.
     
  10. cuchulain

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    Bollocks !

    I'm heading for 70, I've never taken any sort of PED and my Total T is 29 which my quack tells me is higher than usual.
     
  11. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I agree and this is beyond s****. I lost all the respect for Hearn(not that i have much, he lost it with Conor Benn case).
    But it's not just this Vada stuff, but the Bivol fight as well. Hearn is putting enormous amount of pressure on Beterbiev. He is saying Bivol signing 2 fights deal for Beterbiev, to put more pressure on Artur.
     
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  12. Serge

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    Me too. I've defended him many times but I wish I hadn't now. He's been behaving a bit odd during the lead up to this fight. Like I said, he's been adamant that Smith not only beats Beterbiev but that he knocks him out and he says he can see it as clear as day in his mind's eye. Says Smith is going to spark Beterbiev out cold with a left hook and I remember thinking to myself at the time that this is out of character for him and that he never usually does it. I think it's all part of the plan to try and get Beterbiev to be reckless and get caught by a big shot he doesn't see coming and obviously all this test results business is too.
     
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  13. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I never seen Beterbiev being reckless and Smith is not the kind of opponent to make Beterbiev do stupid things.

    I think he will be motivated like he is fighting for a new belt.

    20 KO
     
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  14. Serge

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    Smith has good timing punching in between your shots and E-Hearn knows this and he wants to anger Beterbiev and hope he does something reckless.

    I see Beterbiev winning via stoppage most likely between 5 and 8, possibly 9
     
  15. mirkofilipovic

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    They are worse because they don't have the money to have an anti doping agency or enforcement, it is corrupt. It's a free for all over there buddy.
     
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