Artur Beterbiev replaces Joe Louis

I feel like someone insulted you by saying Louis has better foot work than Beterbiev.

 

I'm talking about injuries though ‍♂️

 

where is the evidence Beterbiev can handle a guy who is 6'6 240 lbs like Budy Baer?

 

I don’t see it. He’s way too injury prone, so I doubt Beterbiev would be able to handle the consistent fight schedule Louis had.

Louis had more fights in just his title defenses compared to Beterbiev, who has only had 21 pro fights in over 10 years.

 

Beterbiev would beat any of Louis' competition in a one off fight. I am pretty sure of that.

However, Artur started in the pro ranks at 28, while Louis had his first fight just after turning 20. I don't see Beterbiev putting together anywhere near the run that Joe did, especially as the injury bug seems to bite him.

 

There is no way Beterbiev is favourite over Schmeling, Walcott or Charles.

 

Why is any evidence required given Baers abilities? This isn't a skilled big man like Lewis

 

Sure he could. Look who Walcott lost to. He managed to lose to Rex Layne who clearly is nowhere near Beterbievs level

Louis didn't beat Charles so why bring him up

 

He may not be skilled but he is huge and hard hitting.

Let's see Beterbiev beat a top 30 heavyweight in the world today who is that size. Budy wasn't Lennox Lewis but given his size and power, he was good enough to be a top 20-30 guy today. Let's see Beterbiev beat a guy ranked in the top 30 in the world today who is that big and strong and then we'll compare him to Louis.

People are getting way carried away here. Louis had handspeed and power compared to Mike Tyson. Beterbiev is great for a 175'er but there is zero evidence he could absorb punches from either of the Baer brothers. Or from some of the other big hitting heavies Louis faced and beat.

 

There's nothing Beterbiev has done that proves he's clearly on a level above Layne. Nothing. When Beterbiev beats a top 5 P4P ATG like Charles, you let me know

Walcott beats Beterbiev clearly. We're talking about a slower, smaller pressure fighter who gets countered and dropped by Callum Johnson. Walcott would counter him all night and knock him out. Just look at how well Walcott did against Louis and Marciano.

Coz the post I quoted said any of Louis' competition. Charles fought Louis, making him his competition.

 

Because despite not being a Lewis or a Klitschko, Buddy Baer still managed wins over Lee Savold and Nathan Mann, both of whom were top 10 rated Heavyweights, and were at least the same size as Beterbiev, if not bigger. He also beat another giant, Abe Simon in 3 rounds, who actually outweighed Buddy, so he clearly had some semblance of skill in order to beat a future contender that was bigger than him.

Beterviev himself is no paragon of skill, he's just a well schooled physical force. It's far from a guarantee that he beats a contender that has half a foot and 70 lbs on him given his style.

 

Better question is how would Louis look against who Beterbiev fought big names like Joe Smith jr and Callum Liam, or was it Liam Callum?

 

He has been twice vs fellow light heavyweights. Is he going to be able to take a clean right hand from a 215 lb Max Baer? Say what you want about Baer's crudeness and lack of skill, the man was a big big puncher in any era. Braddock was a durable boxer who could keep his distance whereas Beterbiev is a come forward fighter who would be open to the big right hands Max could throw. I don't see Beterbiev surviving Baer's power. Or his younger brother Budy's power who was a towering 6'6 242 lbs.

Let's see Beterbiev beating even a top 30 ranked heavyweight who is 6'5 and 240 lbs or more before we favour him over either of the Baer brothers.

 

He is worse at literally everything but weightlifting then Louis, Artur would lose to Conn badly, lose to Marciano, Charles, Walcott and Schemling - Both Baer's are interesting fights, as is the Primo bout but eh - I don't remember how much Bivins had left but if it was anything he'd school Artur... I don't remember all the other guy's he fought but no, no amateur does anywhere near as good as Joe freakin Louis Mel - Artur is a paid Olympian with barely any pro exp in the old days long amateur careers indicated poor schooling and a lot of bad habits - they are NO replacement for the pros one is a sport the other is almost gladiatorial - IF Artur was trained by Blackburn? If Artur was of the times, in the era's business scheme and boxing eco system... Artur's talent is obvious he could be the champ NO DOUBT.