Artur Beterbiev vs Radivoje Kalajdzic is this weekend

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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  2. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Not his fault, though. How is it that some fighters can walk away from a lousy promoter while others get stuck for years? I can't stand the corruption that goes on in boxing like no other sport. A person should be able to walk away from any contract that is not working for him. In the real world, if a person is unhappy working for a company he can quit. Why wouldn't you be able to do the same in boxing? Outrageous. If there is upfront money, that is another story, so it needs to be worked out to pay it back or paid back through future fights but to tie a fighter to a poor promoter or manager is flat out wrong. It should be unlawful.
     
  3. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    I disagree.
    Both sides sat down and came to an agreement. Now they are both obligated to see through that agreement.
    You can't just walk away because you fee like it.

    Promoters would get abused left and right. This is why fighters need good management(buyout clauses and such).

    I have no idea what happened with Beterbiev and GYM, but it doesn't seem like it was all on GYM. They took really good care of him(opposition wise) during his first 3 years as a pro.
     
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  4. silencio

    silencio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beterbiev by mid-rounds KO.
     
  5. Bubba

    Bubba worst weekend in boxing history Full Member

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    Don't pay attention to the Browne fight.
    Kalajdzic was robbed.

    Hot Rod is a decent puncher with good fundamentals.
     
  6. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have cash on Kalajdzic and also took him in the prediction league. I'm not sure he can actually pull it off. If he comes inside on AB with his hands down like he did with Browne, he's going to get KTFO. However, he has the power to hurt Beterbiev IMO and if he uses angles/upper body movement, he can also outbox Beterbiev who I think is a plodder and needs to set his feet to punch. I think a LHW Pirog or Loma would absolutely school Beterbiev. But I haven't really seen Kalajdzic fight like that and I think he's going to try and take Beterbiev's head off. And he might succeed. If he doesn't, he's gonna go to sleep trying IMO.
     
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    13 of Hot Rod's 17 inside the distance wins ended in the first round and 6 of of his wins that did go the full route were either 4, 6 or 8 rounders, mostly 6.

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  8. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Oh, so you don't think you should be able to quit your job?

    Why would a fighter fire a manager if the manager is doing a good job? Why would fighters be firing managers left and right if the managers are doing a good job? As far as I am concerned this is part of the reason boxing is so shady. These ridiculous forced contracts. A boxer shouldn't even need a promoter if he chooses not to have one. But if a fighter chooses to do this they get blackballed.
     
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  9. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    I just did :lol:
    But the difference is that I never signed up for a specific period. I just went to work for them.
    Boxing contracts are usually time specified. Aka x amount of fights for x amount of years.

    Boxing contracts are like apartment leases. You can opt out, but it's going to cost you(usually the deposit). And they can't just kick you out because they feel like it.
     
  10. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    Nice rationalization. Boxers are NOT like apartment leases. They are people.
     
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  11. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    Ah for **** sake. I was talking about the contracts you dummy.
    They signed an agreement for a certain period. They shouldn't just be able to walk away because.
     
  12. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    So am I, dummy. You can twist your logic any way you want. Bottom line is if a promoter/manager is doing a good job no fighter is going to fire him. But, if for any reason, a guy wants a divorce, he should be able to walk away from it any time. And he should be able to fight while things are being sorted out in court. If you walk away from a lease you don't have to live in the streets until things are decided.
     
  13. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. banned Full Member

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    And divorces tend to come with a nice penalty :lol:
     
  14. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    That doesn't mean people can't continue to see other people while the divorce is being sorted out. Come on, man, your logic makes no sense. Ruin a guy's career because some guy wants to control it? Yeah, right.
     
  15. ChinMusic

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    great analogy, fighters are people too