Arturo Gatti vs Rick Hatton

I rate elites A+ ie RJJ, Hopkins prime, PBF, Pac, mosley prime & yes Calzaghe too.

Based on Hattons performance against an A+ fighter in Mayweather, he was probably an A- that night. I also rate even an old Kostya who was rated p4p 3 at the time an A- level fighter and Hatton on that night just edged him.

 

Hes much more open if you are Floyd, a super slick, accurate puncher with amazing hand speed...sure.

Obviously, Hatton is not Floyd.

Furthermore... If you look at their connects against Floyd, you will see that Gatti, percentage wise, out punched and out landed Hatton.

Not to mention that Ricky eats jabs and Gatti has a 5 in reach advantage. Gatti, as you can see below, was able to throw/land the jab...and the power punches more effectively than Hatton.

Here are averages of their totals divided by the number of rounds they lasted against Floyd (Hatton 10, Gatti 6).

Hatton Gatti
6 Landed 7
37 Thrown 41
17% Pct. 17%

Power Punches
Hatton Gatti
5 Landed 2
31 Thrown 9
17% Pct. 18%

Jabs
Hatton Gatti
1 Landed 5
6 Thrown 32
17% Pct. 16%

And, just to be fair, here is how Floyd performed against each of them. Obviously, he threw/landed more against Gatti who tired to box with him, versus Ricky who went in throwing bombs.

Hatton Gatti
13 Landed 28
33 Thrown 49
39% Pct. 57%

Power Punches
Hatton Gatti
10 Landed 19
26 Thrown 31
39% Pct. 63%

Jabs
Hatton Gatti
3 Landed 9
7 Thrown 19
40% Pct. 47%

 

Not according to the stats you posted. They both landed at 17% connect percentage:

CompuBox Punchstats

Mayweather Hatton
Landed 129 63
Thrown 329 372
Pct. 39% 17%

Mayweather Gatti
Landed 168 41
Thrown 295 245
Pct. 57% 17%

Though watching the fights thats hard to believe, cant remember Gatti actually landing a shot on Floyd

Hatton very clearly did.

Gatti was one of Floyds easiest fights ever. Hatton, even at 147, after the fight PBF said Hatton was one of his toughest opponents.

 

147 wasnt Gatti's weight, 135-140 no question Gatti would handle Hatton in a great one though. I think many are remembering Gatti at the end and not his prime.

 

This post sums it up perfect.:good

 

Prime Gatti got schooled be Ivan Robinson ffs. At 140 or 147, Hatton would have beaten Gatti. Even a past prime Hatton would beat a prime Gatti.

 

Since you obviously didn't read the post right above yours, I'll explain it to you slowly...

Ricky's numbers were over 10 (the number following 9) rounds. Gatti's numbers are over 6 rounds. 6 is less than 10, so Rickys output numbers will of course be higher...because he had more time to throw punches.

With me so far?

OK. The percentages are the same (17%) but if you average their numbers (Rickys rounds/Rickys punches for example) it shows you something else.

You will see that overall Gatti threw more, and landed slightly more.

Power punches Ricky threw way more, but landed only 5 at 17%. Gatti landed only 2, but threw only 9 at 22%.

Jabs landed Gatti 5, Ricky 1. Gatti throws way more.

Versus Floyd, Gatti out worked Hatton. That being said, Hatton had a better fight because he took a different approach, and pressured him.

Gatti and Buddy went at it exactly, 100% wrong. There was no way in hell Gatti was going to stand back and out box Floyd.

However, I do think, based on how they fared against Floyd, that Gatti would absolutely stand back and out box Ricky, and I don't think Ricky had the power to take Gatti out.

Here are averages of their totals divided by the number of rounds they lasted against Floyd (Hatton 10, Gatti 6).

Hatton Gatti
6 Landed 7
37 Thrown 41
17% Pct. 17%

Power Punches
Hatton Gatti
5 Landed 2
31 Thrown 9
17% Pct. 22%

Jabs
Hatton Gatti
1 Landed 5
6 Thrown 32
17% Pct. 16%

 

Hatton is rubbish at 147, his best weight is at 140.....so for me gatti wins with his boxing skills.....and if he has to go to war he still beat hatton at 147

 

That definatly makes Hatton better then atsch

Castillio landed far more than both but Hatton KO'd Castllio, ABC doesn't work.

Hatton would beat Gatti in a war, Hatton was the better fighter simple as that.

 

Gatti was even more **** than Hatton at 147 ffs. There is literally no case to be made for anything other than a Hatton win.

 

OMG why are you trying to overcomplicate things, and making mistakes whilst in the proccess.

First off this was my orginal quote:

You replied with this:

When the **** did I refer to "throwing more punches"? I was reffering to %%% strictly, and at that, as I said, they both landed at 17% according to compubox!.

Then you go on to say:

Can you not see how stupid that sounds? How the **** can you get 22% for Gatti when it has already been established that he landed at 18% powerpunches through 6 and Hatton at 17% through 10, though Hatton makes up for a higher % in jabs.

Lets see, Gatti throws 9 and lands 2, and you get 22%? Its 18% as established already, why are you trying to change the maths? Your problem is you divided Gatti's total power punches of 56 thrown and 10 landed by 6 and somehow got 9 & 2 for an answer. When in fact, the true average is 56/6=9.3333 and 10/6=1.666. Of course they cant land 1.6 power punch in a round but whereas he may have landed 1 on 1 round, he may land 2 in the next round and althrough 6, Gatti landed on average 1.66 power punches. 1.666 of 9.333 = 17.857, round it up and you got the original 18%.


Overall, Gatti threw on average 40punches per round over 6, Hatton threw 37 per round over 10, both landed at the same %. Sure that would mean that IF Gatti were to keep up that pace for 10 rounds it would mean he would have landed more than Hatton, as he was throwing more and connecting at the same % but it doesnt take into account the fact that Hatton was having more success in the powerpunches stats which is what matters more. Also it doesnt take into account that Hatton's accuracy/work rate may have very well dropped after 6 rounds as Floyd figured him out, I bet Hatton's work rate and connect % was better than Gattis through first 6 rounds.

Besides, all this compubox BS is just that, BS. Its clear as day Hatton was in a competitive fight and Gatti was in one of the biggest ass whoopings of all time, if he was half as succesful as Hatton in fighting PBF as the compubox stats would suggest, it would be seen as such a bad beating.

Also :rofl at Gatti outboxing Hatton. What overrated boxing skills, Hatton has outboxed better guys than Gatti and has a lot more skills in general. Heck he outboxed Mallignagi even, who has Gatti "outboxed"? Gatti came up against 2 elite fighters in DLH & PBF, he was masacred by both, just destroyed. Hatton came up against 3 elite fighters, he won 1 against Tsyzu, was in a competetive fight against Mayweather and was destroyed by Pac.

Different leagues. Hatton outboxes him. Outbrawls him. Just destroys him.

 

"suspect chins"!!!!! are you ****in serious!!!!! Lost their resistance late on granted but in their prime?

 

First, I admit I made a mistake in the punch stat putting 17% when in fact, 2/9 is 22%.

Second, I watched both of those fights as a fan of Hatton, Gatti and as much as I hate to admit it...a one time fan of The Mouth.

Floyd wiped the canvas with Gatti because, like I pointed out, Gatti tried to out box him, which was a super bad plan.

Hatton, learning from Oscars fight, went in with pressure and, like I have also said, fought competitively until he walked into a perfect left hook and landed face first in the turnbuckle.

Third, for you to say Power Punches matter more is ridiculous. The jab is the most versatile and valuable punch in the sport. Ricky will eat jabs, and Gatti will throw them..and with a 5in reach advantage...land them.

Fourth, no way Hatton out brawls Gatti. Gatti has better hand speed, power, a reach advantage and a ton more heart.

Fifth, Gatti would win this fight because he would work off the jab and land power shots. Ricky would eat the jabs and try to make it a war...and even if he succeeded, he doesn't have the power to drop Gatti.

Sixth, I'm going to guess you have not seen many Gatti fights, or you wouldn't be talking out of your ass.

:hi:

 

Compubox doesn't mean ****. It's an often inaccurate system which proves little even when it is accurate, as it can't show exactly how clean the shots are. A grazing shot is obviously less effective than a clean flush shot but it will look the same statistically. The stats should not be taken seriously.

Hatton wins because he was a better fighter. The fight would be better at 140 than 147 but Hatton wins at either weight. People mention Gatti being way too small at 147 but he's not really much smaller than Hatton anyway. He cut a LOT of weight earlier in his career but by the time he fought at 140, he wasn't any smaller in height, reach, frame, or fight night weight than Hatton.

Of course Gatti has the proverbial puncher's chance with his power but he's surely the underdog here. Look at how many times we've seen Gatti doubled over from bodywork. Being vulnerable to the body doesn't help your chances when you're facing Ricky Hatton.