Arum admits PPV is dead. What does this mean for boxing?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Sheikh, Jul 24, 2022.


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  1. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Try Canada. I remember The Lewis - Rahman rematch was around 75 quid.
     
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  2. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Fight sports enthusiast Full Member

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    Let me explain. First MMA fans do pirate but the UFC has good sales for its PPVs because it puts together cards serious cards, sometimes top to bottom or at least half decent.

    Aside from the odd Conor fght it's rare that a PPV would be marketed solely off its main event like in boxing. Rather the co-main event and down the the prelims sometimes, are hyped up and marketed and they will actually have match-up fans want to see. Again an issue boxing has now.
     
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  3. turbotime

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    And on top of that it's hardly televised for free because streaming services have taken over - so how many do you know actually have cable? But Boxing has been dead for a century, it will be fine as niche as it is now. HBO were the ones who really killed it - There was nothing more ace than an HBO PPV night
     
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  4. turbotime

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    Yeah UFC fight Pass is pretty great and the cards go on for around 7 hours lol
     
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  5. Dementia Pugulistica

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    Simple fix really. Lower the price to around 50 bucks and make competitive fights with good undercards. Problem solved, you're welcome Bob. I'd come back for that price but at 70 - 100$ for a dog**** stay busy fight with crap undercards I'm spending my money on something else.
     
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  6. Dementia Pugulistica

    Dementia Pugulistica Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I remember paying 25$ cdn for the first fight. A reasonable amount for what was supposed to be an easy defence for Lewis.
     
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  7. Sheikh

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    Boxers have to accept lower purses and understand that they are overpaid. There are only a few boxers promoters profit from. The others are kinda being subsidized by the top guys. For Golden Boy it was Canelo, for PBC it is Davis. In any other sport the owners will not take a loss on their athlete. Rather, they will pay the athlete what they are worth. That's how economics works. Boxers have no negotiating clout to ask for large purses when they do not generate that much revenue or their purse would require a promoter to take a loss. The problem has been there are too many promoters right now so they are competing like crazy with one another and this has inflated purses.
     
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  8. Deew

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    Need to be careful what I say here, as I recently was banned for a month on this site for "encouraging the use of illegal fight streams" - my first forum ban ever lol

    I wasn't encouraging or condoning such a thing; but I was illustrating how, myself, pushing 40 has never paid for a PPV and never will when there are manifold alternatives ( which may not be legal in the USA TBF) - but I highly doubt that even a small % of folk born after 1995 would ever consider such a thing also
     
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  9. lufcrazy

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    This.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

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    I'm gonna say bye before the permaban kicks in.
     
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  11. Wig

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    I need to understand the forecast £££ P&L of a fight before I can decide whether to watch/enjoy it. What goes on in the ring has become a sideshow, the real interest lies in margin projections and back end upside.

    Said no boxing fan ever.
     
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  12. 4Rounder

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    IMO the loss of HBO boxing was also a huge blow to the sport.
     
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  13. The G-Man

    The G-Man I'm more of a vet. banned Full Member

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    Absolutely.

    Sport has feeled empty ever since,no one had the production values and story telling as them.
    I miss HBO Boxing.
     
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  14. Sheikh

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    HBO Boxing was great. However, the reason why HBO left is because of the ratings decline and lack of interest. As lack of interest in the sport progressed HBO started having fewer and fewer TV dates and their budget for boxing shrunk. It got to the point where it was just not worth it anymore, they could make more money making TV shows and generate more money and ratings from that than boxing.

    Another aspect is the number of international fighters in the US. International fighters are big in thier own countries but a foreign fighter will rarely become a star and household name in the US. As there are many more international elite fighters and to some extent less American ones the ratings will likewise decline and they will not be promoted much here.
     
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