Arum: "AJ is overrated"

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Is Joshua overrated?

  1. Yes

    31 vote(s)
    30.4%
  2. No

    43 vote(s)
    42.2%
  3. A bit

    25 vote(s)
    24.5%
  4. He's the best HW around

    13 vote(s)
    12.7%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Bob Arum's words:

    "It is against my financial interest, but I will cheer for USyK in the challenge! It's stronger than me. Joshua doesn't excite me. I don't have a great opinion of Joshua because, whenever his name is mentioned, I see him lying on the canvas after being hit by a non-puncher like Andy Ruiz! I'm serious. I might underestimate him maybe, but I'm not convinced that Joshua is an elite heavyweight".





    Is Arum right on "The Bodybuilder" or not?
     
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  2. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As long as Joshua fanboys stay in their place (unlike Tyson Fury fanboys) and don't say anything crazy like "Joshua beats prime Lennox Lewis" then i won't say Joshua's overrated.

    Im looking at you mark ant
     
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  3. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The Bopfather is always full of ****, but sometimes on the money. Joshua is certainly overrated by his growing troop of dedicated internet fanboys who insist that he has "the best resume at HW by far" despite not having one of the top 3 wins in the division, and a devastating quit job loss.

    People thought Hatton would've beat Floyd if Cortez hadn't reffed the fight. What are ya gonna do? People are blind to logic when they decide upon a favorite fighter.
     
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  4. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    He’s the best heavyweight around
     
  5. timeout

    timeout Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bob is just trying to wind up Eddie Hearn. That much is clear. But there is an element of truth behind that statement tbh.
     
  6. dragon666

    dragon666 Active Member Full Member

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    Is it Joshua who is underrated and Fury who is overrated?

    I think Fury would beat him but i'm not sure it's a foregone conclusion that will happen.
     
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  7. Rakesh

    Rakesh Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Underrated as **** on this forum ffs, it's ridiculous how much **** he gets on this forum.
     
  8. Ty is That Guy

    Ty is That Guy Member Full Member

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    Maybe if he fakes Covid, never defends a belt, avoids the best and takes nandrolone, then he can be the best like Fury is.

    Right?
     
  9. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    voted no

    might have been prior to the ruiz loss

    cant speak to social media because im not on it

    there will always be posters who love a fighter and over rate that fighter but in general i dont see a big tendency to over rate him

    he is largely viewed as a top 3 heavyweight, some think usyk can beat him but many feel he can beat wilder

    i dont see anyone really making bold historical statements regarding his career thats usually a tell tale sign

    if anything i think the ruiz fight may haunt him for a long time as far as standing unless he were to beat fury and or wilder
     
  10. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Parker said Ruiz was the hardest puncher he ever felt. -Fast hands too.

    In the HWs it only takes one punch..... Ruiz had his day - and deserved it.
     
  11. MagicE

    MagicE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    How can he be overrated when no one really rates him that highly?

    He's either the best or second best in a relatively weak division, and he's clearly got his flaws and I think a lot of people recognise that, even in most media.

    Perhaps pre Ruiz he was getting overrated but I think it's calmed down now
     
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  12. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Ruiz has heavy and fast hands for sure but Ruiz of fight 2 and Arreolas was a disappointing fighter.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He punches so hard that he KO'd shot Chris Arreola, oh wait he didn't. Punches so hard that Ruiz knocked Parker down in the 12th round and had him hurt, oh wait that wasn't him. Let's be honest Ruiz ain't a big puncher. Don't believe everything Parker says just because he's from New Zealand. Ruiz doesn't even have a high KO ratio for the amount of fights he's won.

    Ruiz is fast hands and can throw a high volume of punches but if he was had some prolific power how come he was never known or shown to have devastating power or devastating combinations ? Makes no sense. The fast hands probably just caught Parker off guard. Thats the most likely answer, because evidence shows he isn't pillowfisted but he isn't a notable puncher.

    Joshua was caught with a shot on the temple and it concussed him.
     
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  14. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    If anything, he’s kind of underrated. He has the best resume of any heavyweight right now, and usually, the #1 HW will have a lot of people saying “Oh, he’s the greatest ever, he could beat almost anybody before him.” Fury, Wlad, Lennox, all had/have guys saying this about them. Joshua doesn’t really have too many guys saying this about him. He gets less respect from hardcore fans than Vitali despite having easily 10x the resume.
     
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  15. jmb1356

    jmb1356 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes. Suspect chin, tires after 6 rounds, defense isn't great, lack of head movement, not great footwork. He is also vulnerable to hooks and counterpunchers. He's competent in a lot of areas, but doesn't really excel in any facet of his game.