Arum comparison between Lopez/Gamboa and Bradley/Alexander

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Feb 9, 2011.


  1. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    "[Lopez-Gamboa] will happen when the fans are really demanding the fight. I'm not going to be pushed by a few people, who follow boxing closely and want the fight to happen. That doesn't mean the fight should happen,".

    "I want, when the fight happens, for the demand to be there so I know that I can sell out an arena, and not the travesty that just happened with Alexander and Bradley. That was travesty to do that fight with no real build-up, so there was no real demand from the sports fan. That's not going to happen to me. I go by what the demand is for a particular fight, and the demand is not there for a fight between Lopez and Gamboa."

    "When the demand reaches a boiling point, where everybody is on board and excited like the New York Times and the news...everybody and not just the website people because that doesn't drive the needle. That was the fault of Alexander and Bradley. It hadn't even reached the consciousness of the public."



    As much as I want to see a JuanMa/Gamboa fight, I think he has a point. The Alexander/Bradley fight was good for us hardcore fans but it wasn't as good or significant as it should have been for non-fans. Considering they were two undefeated, young American fighters, when they did meet, it should have been huge. Instead, it was rushed to suit the demands of a fraction of the market. As much as I want to see Khan/Bradley, I think it's a similar scenario. Only one fighter has a good promoter and a lot of hype, so it won't be the massive event it should be, as the culmination fight of a hot division.

    It's frustrating for us, yeah, but you can't fault Arum's logic. The only issue I have, is the Gamboa/JuanMa fight isn't really growing too much. If anything, because of the soft matchmaking, it's losing interest.
     
  2. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Na I don't mind not matching them now. It makes the fight more sweeter to me. Once the first bell rings it'll all be worth it. I think 2012 should be when they fight.
     
  3. Marcelo

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    can you imagine bradley-alexander got hyped for 2 more years, then we saw that same boring fight?
     
  4. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    **** the "non-fans" the real fans are the ones who line arums pockets
     
  5. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are totally wrong with that statement... is all about bringing the masses,, fill out an arena with actors, actress and a bunch of entertainers.. that's what makes a big payday for a promoter..

    :hat
     
  6. roversbowers

    roversbowers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    without the hardcore fans you have no sport in the first place.
     
  7. Ant68

    Ant68 Active Member Full Member

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    Excellent point. This is the same demented man that came out with **** like Pacquiao is greater than Ali. Boxing doesn't have a huge following anymore anyway, Gamboa-JuanMa cannot get much bigger. Gamboa isn't that followed in his home country for obvious reasons, and JuanMa is very popular. Who could they further beat to boost public awareness of the fight? They are clearly the best two feathers in the world and should fight within the next 12/18 months. Arum is talking from a business perspective (surprise, surprise) but let's hope the person who is actually promoting the thing sees a bit of sense. :rasta
     
  8. Finesse74

    Finesse74 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :good
    Especially when talking about boxing.
     
  9. gyll

    gyll Undetectable Full Member

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    The hell with Arum's ideals. He thinks selfishly with his wallet, not his brain. Alexander wasn't even the 2nd best fighter at 140, so the real "mega fight" is between Bradley and Khan. And that fight will get plenty of hype before it happens. Besides, the longer you wait for two undefeated fighters to clash, the bigger the chance of either fighter getting upset by an underdog which would obviously spoil the collision course. Bradley is already 27 yrs old with nearly 30 fights under his belt. He isn't getting any younger. He needs to be fighting guys who will help him achieve a bigger name and that includes fighting Devon Alexander.

    Not that I would wish for Salido to pull off the upset against Lopez, but damn, it would feel good to see Arum losing sleep over it. I feel that Boxing owes the die hard fans something considering the abundance of circus fights like Pac-Marg, Hopkins-Jones 2, Holyfield-anybody, etc. Bradley-Alexander didn't turn out as expected but it was still a nice treat to add balance to the scale.
     
  10. RSBonos

    RSBonos Boxing Addict Full Member

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    They could just make as much money now and have them fight a trilogy. This won't be a styles clash like Bradley-Alexander and Gamboa & Juanma will never become cross over stars by not fighting each other.
     
  11. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True but to keep the sport thriving, there needs to be megafights. As much as I like the sound of Groves/DeGale, I don't think they should fight yet because, if all goes to plan, in a couple of years, it would be a huge fight for British boxing. That is ultimately going to keep the sport in the papers, rather than entertaining, good bouts that only hardcore fans see.
     
  12. RJJFan

    RJJFan Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Now that Arum has the hookup with CBS, he can put Gamboa and JML up there for the millions to watch and hopefully build the demand.
     
  13. garfios

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    The problem with this reasoning is, Juanma and Gamboa both had defense flaws and Juanma has been hurt real bad on a least three separate occasions, Gamboa while not hurt like Juanma he gets open when on the offense and is just a matter of time until one of them or both gets KO.
     
  14. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    this is what a lot of boxing fans dont get.. they think promoters really put fights on for the hardcore fans.. and some do but what they care is about the millions.. and they wont get that money without big mega fights... how long were people asking for DLH vs trinidad before it got made.. and it doesnt matter if the fight is boring when it happens.. the thing is that fight made millions..

    Bradley and alexander are two great young fighters that are getting really bad advice they couldve fought in a year or two for a lot more money

    :hat
     
  15. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Someone will very conceivably lose first and then he will have ****ed himself in the ass.