Arum gives Floyd first crack at Manny

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by kingalex, Nov 18, 2010.


  1. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It makes no since for him to be giving Floyd a crack at anything if Pac is not gonna agree to a full random drug test. I don't think they really want this fight in the first place, if so it would of already happened. Arum with the help of the media, has successfully manipulated and brain washed the gullible minds of those who were willing to listen. I can see the BS happening a third time around and once again the gullible will blame Floyd.
     
  2. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow you're are a ****ing idiot. Your boy is on vacation, and Arum has to call him out.
     
  3. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What they do is monitor athletes all year - Even when they're not competing.

    If it's just for the period of the camp then its as ineffective as what is already in place by the actual atheletic commissions.

    Further - Unless the samples are stored somewhere and review periodically as more sophisticated tests become available - It's also not "OSDT".

    Saying that OSDT is going to be any more effective is just as flawed - Marion Jones never tested positive for the clear either, the same clear Mosley was done for.
     
  4. D50

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    No, it would have happened once because the second negotiations wouldn't have happened. And the drug testing was NOT an issue in the second negotiations.
     
  5. PeteDawg

    PeteDawg Observant Observer Full Member

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    :beat

    You don't get ****... you're idiotic follower that can't think for yourself. You still arguing about drug tests shows your heights of DELUSION. Floyd Jr. would ask you to eat **** and your response "Yes, of course it tastes great. May I have some more?" :rofl

    Here's a FYI, I didn't want to get political on this part of the forum, but since you brought it up; figured might as well show YOU how truly dumb you look. Last time I checked they Franklin Raines and Maxine Waters aren't in jail for the housing debacle:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs[/ame]
     
  6. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The situation is as reasonable as repeatedly meeting the demands of a gang of kidnappers. Arum does this BS every single time. It could be scripted.

    -- Arum says Manny wants to fight.
    -- Mayweather enters into negotiations putting his life on hold
    -- Arum and Pac start lying in the press but flaking at the negotiation table
    -- Arum jumps in the press saying Mayweather is unreasonable but gives no details
    -- The press repeats his BS word for word with not details
    -- *******s lap it up and blame Mayweather
    -- Arum uses his stable of fighters and/or broke boxers to hype a cherry picked fight for Pac
    -- Mayweather crapped on even more

    You suggestion that this is reasonable is silly at best. 3 weeks is crap considering the REPEATED use of Mayweather as a catapult to sell Pac's cherry picked fights.

    I am a fool? I have given up on believing ANYTHING Arum says is presented with the intent of actually making this fight. Until Arum announces Pac's weight drained limited skilled no negotiation leverage having opponent who won't dare even bring up drug tests? My filter is blocking it. Notice how Margo's cheating was fair game for Pac to ridicule, but Margo didn't mention PEDs ONCE?

    Nope. Just on the general BS assumption by Americans that have been ruled by a mini-tyrant and now exist in a damned near full fledged oligarchy that somehow this is due to Obama's deficiencies. A President needs a rational congress and a rational electorate. America has neither. Americans now equate "leadership" to rash action and stubbornness. No matter how much syrup you pour on **** it won't become pancakes. Jimmy Carter was a "bad leader" too. :roll:
     
  7. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ooooo I like the odds here... Beastmode!
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is that what they always do or do they offer other testing services too? :think

    So if it is so easy to get around and Pac has nothing to fear shouldn't we have seen this fight twice already?

    BS. It is better. Quit rationalizing Pac's BS position.
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is your comeback? You are a roach.
     
  10. CoDer

    CoDer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yawn
     
  11. jomzky

    jomzky in your mind Full Member

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    PBF shouldn't have turned pro, he should have stayed in the olympics where they are being tested OSDT. Pro boxers are fearless, they fight without fear no matter how big the adversity in front of them, even if their enemy is on to something or not, they just simply... FIGHT.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am thinking completely for myself. Everytime Arum puts up a big fuss, gives not details, then Pac fights a can. Drug tests have killed this fight TWICE! An insane $10 million per pound penalty didn't. Shows Mayweather wants it. Pac does not.

    You don't need to get political. You are a moron that doesn't even know how Freddie and Fannie work. Do they make loans? How do they get loans? How many FNMA/FMAC loans are a part of the mortgage crisis? Do you know the difference between A paper and sub prime? Do you even know what a CDO/CDS is? I bet you are also going to say that the "poor minorities getting sub prime loans" did it too?

    You are a clueless goon. You are not dealing with one of the clowns you are used to that doesn't know crap on crap and you can spout that Republican drivel. Go look up the Savings and Loan scandal. This is the exact same thing. This is all a result of your war mongering buddy Bush wanting to fight a war on credit. He hoped to get out of office before the crap hit the fan. He didn't.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wonder when is the last time you wiped Ali's ass or paid Fraziers light bill. :roll:
     
  14. D50

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    Just because you dramatize it doesn't make the reality any different.

    So far so good.

    I laugh at you.

    I still remember the first negotiations quite clearly. It was all smooth sailing until it got to the blood testing issue. Your formula has failed.

    The sheer fact that you use the term "*******" means you're hopelessly biased.

    Fair enough statements to make.

    It is a reasonable amount of time to receive a response, given full understanding of the situation. Pacquiao has duties as a Congressman that can't be put on hold indefinitely, Arum wants to set a fight as soon as possible. The previous negotiations were what they were, Arum decides he doesn't want to bother with that crap unless he knows Mayweather's camp is going to actually be free for a fight in the first place, given the threat of a looming trial that can potentially disrupt Mayweather. It's ****ing reasonable.

    I very simply explained the difference between what the article said and what posters assumed. The article said that Arum wanted a response. It didn't say he wanted a signed contract or agreements to Arum's demands within 3 weeks. You're free to not believe that, but to use the article as proof that Arum made an unfair ultimatum isn't right. I mean, going by your mistrust of Arum, nothing could have been reported at all and your reaction would have been the same anyway. Arum to his old tricks again. I won't even comment on your other pointless arguments that do nothing but highlight that you're biased against Team Pac.
     
  15. Caliboxing

    Caliboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This bull**** needs to be resolved once and for all. Pac's people need to come out and agree to the random testing, and put this PEDs thing to rest. Then they need to set up a public press conference to state that they have agreed, so that everyone knows. Then they need to talk to Floyd and ask him when he'd be ready to fight. If Floyd can't answer or doesn't want the fight, then they can move on without this nonsense just going on in cycles and annoying the **** out of boxing fans.