Arum is getting a dose of his own medicine.

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  1. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    No, it means Floyd is doing exactly what he said. Anyone that fights him will agree to the full testing or they might as well not even consider him a future opponent. Notice everybody says from the beginning without hesitation that they will happily concede to the testing to make the fight. When the negotiations start its not even a discussion point because it is already agreed upon. If Manny had just agreed to the full testing back in 2010 can you say with absolute certainty that the fight still wouldn't have happened? Real talk.
     
  2. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    Your not making any sense.
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    and if floyd is not paranoid like all the others who fought pac and accused, pac of using PEDs, he would not demand that extra testing. and it's not like pac has outrght refused the PED testing, floyd could have at least met the cut-off for blood test (not urine).

    if floyd has a problem with the cut-off during the second nego, he should have said it then and not "i have no urge right now to fight". that's why there are negotiations to sort these things out and not just go on vacations whenever you feel like it.

    present times, floyd is going through the social media route without a hint of calling TR's dubeuf. if he can use twitter and facebook, i'm sure he can arrange someone to call him to start the nego.
     
  4. Hecdog

    Hecdog Active Member Full Member

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    Mayweather is a punk along with his dumbass management team They're playing games, and had no intentions of fighting Manny. He's on his way to jail, and wants all the attention he can get. First it's the drug testing, then the money, then who knows what else, now he tries to make himself look good by going on a twitter and act like he's mr. tough. He's such a coward! Manny is the most popular, well behaves and respected boxer to day. Floyd the punk is all jealous and wants to paint a bad picture of him. Floyd has been a chicken **** ever since Many came on the scene. :bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb:bbb
     
  5. papadoc28

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    See now your letting your personal love of Manny and hatred for Floyd cloud your common sense.

    It doesn't matter if he's paranoid or not. Floyd says every opponent from now on must agree to the testing or they can step off. Whether you, or I, or any other boxer agreed with it or not, that is the way it is. So we have to deal with it.

    I never agreed on Pacquiao fighting any of those fights with catchweights because I believed he was so damn good that he didn't need any catchweight to win. But that was what he wanted so either his opponents agreed or they had to step off. They agreed. It is what it is. If thats what it takes for those fighters to get him in the ring then so be it.

    In Floyd's view no negotiating to took place(for the reason I mentioned above). Goldenboy sees differently because they were still hoping a fight could be made and were probably banking on that either Floyd will concede or Manny will concede(I don't think they care which). Neither happened. I can imagine this is what happened(just a theory):


    Goldenboy calls to inform Floyd on the talks:
    GB - "Hey, Floyd. Well all things have been agreed upon, and I'll think you'd be very happy with the res............
    Floyd(cutting in) - "So they agreed to the full testing?"
    GB - "Well they would like a 7-day cut off window."
    Floyd - "Call me when they agree to the full testing." (click)


    Am I saying that is what went down. No. But I believe something like that happened. And he actually did say that Manny never agreed to the testing and that Arum was lying(though it was much later). Problem was nobody believed him, of course. At least not until Koncz put his foot in his mouth on 24/7.

    Lastly, did you forget? Floyd did tell his team to contact Top Rank to make the fight happen. REMEMBER!!!!!!!!!! Arum turned them down. So now isn't it suppose to be Arum contacting them to let them know he's ready to negotiate? That hasn't happened yet. Sending Koncz with some investors to Floyd's gym doesn't matter. Why? Because neither Goldenboy or Floyd's go-to-guy AL Haymon were there to speak on Floyd's behalf. That's like a man getting accused of murder and not having his lawyer with him at the trial.
     
  6. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    :lol:Quite a few people in the media disagree with you. But don't let me stop you. You've got your hater shades on extra tight right now so keep working that keyboard if it makes you feel better.:hi:
     
  7. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How was Floyd on vacation and he just fought Mosley in.May on.2010?
     
  8. yagbols

    yagbols Member Full Member

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    Has the lawsuit been drop? I thought Money said that he won't negotiate while that this is still ongoing (or something similar to that).
     
  9. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nope and Money is starting a Full court press on that lawsuit.
     
  10. yagbols

    yagbols Member Full Member

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    Thanks! So, either Money is just creating controversy to promote his upcoming fight (whoever he has actually lined up) or he is being inconsistent again with his comments.
     
  11. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    :deal
     
  12. iRuBerPosteR

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    did floyd asked arum to move the date or changed venue?

    i thought this was when arum put a counter for floyd to sit down on nego table? did floyd even respond to the call out?
     
  13. papadoc28

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    You thought wrong. No Floyd didn't state that he had issues with the time or venue. Matter of fact no member in Floyd's team or Goldenboy complained about that at all. Why would they? The date was sensible and the venues were part of the negotiations the first time around, so why would they magically have a problem with them now(unlike Top Rank in present day). The full random testing was the issue. Manny's team never agreed therefore fight didn't happen. Manny agreed now, Floyd says let's get it done. Imagine that.
     
  14. iRuBerPosteR

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    the issue was floyd lost his urge and went to vacation. he never said it was about the testing.

    blood test was never the issue in the 2nd nego and backed by greenburg on this.

    floyd has no argument so he jsut deny the 2nd nego and took off.
    they didnt challenge the venue and date because arum can call his bluff.

    how can you nego a guy who lost his urge?

    if its so easy to beat pac, why not call arum's bluff and fight on the 26th? what is so special about the 5th? neither is mexican. may 5 is the new full random.

    floyd can not dictate a guy who just did twice his ppv in 2011. pac/arum will also fight at their most convenient and at the time and place that will generate more money.

    it's really simple.
     
  15. papadoc28

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    Where have you been? Do you just read things that back up your point instead the whole story.

    What did Floyd say? Agree to the full testing, we will fight. Don't agree, there will be no fight. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

    What did Koncz say on the 24/7 episode? They wanted a 7 day cut off. And that was after Arum said they agreed to the testing Floyd wanted. Well, apparently they didn't. But you choose to ignore that fact like so many others.

    So let me get this straight Floyd can't dictate, but Manny can dictate all he wants? Nice double standard you operate under. That type of one-sided thinking is exactly why this fight hasn't happened. And if thats the way you feel, you have no right to ***** about what has gone on with these 2 teams.

    And yes Floyd did say they never agreed to the testing. He's been saying it. Crawl out from that rock you been hiding under and maybe you might have an understanding of all the facts.