Arum is supporting Bradley fighting GGG

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  1. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How does this inequality work when I can just flip that around and go Murray>Sturm? :think
     
  2. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: Le casual boxing fan strikes again.

    Good day, sir.
     
  3. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    What did you start watching boxing last week. There is a good reason Pacman was voted fighter of the decade. Sturm can't even beat the likes of Geale and Soliman.

    You have to admit Bradley was in with much better comp than Murray. Bradley has got a mad beard and Murray was never truly tested.
     
  4. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mate, you're out of your depth. Of course Pacquiao is 100 times the P4P fighter that Sturm is. But you saying that Pacquiao with his 2 WW stoppages in 11 fights (One against a drained beyond belief Oscar who Sturm also beat in the eyes of all sane observers, and one against Cotto at a catchweight) would KO an iron chinned MW and SMW in Sturm is a dead giveaway that you don't really know what you're talking about here. And of course Bradley has been in with great competition. And P4P his chin is one of the best in the business. But he was also knocked near unconscious by a 140lber, Murray has fought big punchers at MW and never been seriously hurt before until he fought GGG. To say that Bradley's beard would hold up better at MW than a massive, iron-chinned top 5 MW who just moved up to SMW, in Martin Murray, betrays a serious lack of understanding about boxing and how P4P reflects on actual weight classes. If you think that Ruslan could do to a 180+ Martin Murray what he did to a 150-155 lb Timothy Bradley then you are fooling yourself or just do not understand the difference between P4P power and actual, real-life power.
     
  5. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    suicide for Tim. Bad bad match-up
     
  6. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Murray is getting overrated here. He hasn't fought any big punchers before Ggg. All he has is size. You could argue he fought one legged maravilla and Geale's son but come on thats not enough here. Did you ever see a provo fight? He has dynamite in his hands and he was fighting at his optimal weight. If he nailed Murray as many times as ge got Bradley im sure he would hurt him. Bradley fought a terrible fight and he still whooped Provo good.

    If Bradley fought a smart fight he could easily survive against Ggg. Murray just came to survive and he still got ktfo.
     
  7. Cafe

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    Ridiculous fight, Arum and Bradley's handlers have no shame if they let the man go through with this. I've no doubt Bradley would get in there with GGG if he could but his team should know better.
     
  8. james5000

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    Bradley talks the talk so let him walk the walk. No shame in it at all. He fully believes he can do it. They should give the man his opportunity.

    If ggg can stop Bradley that's a great win but if desert storm wins it would be huge.

    One of the better ggg match ups imo. At least better than probably every fight he's ever had and a lot of other fantasy match ups. I could see Bradley giving Cotto all he can handle and more that's f hor sure.
     
  9. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course I rate Ruslan's power, I rate him as one of the very biggest P4P punchers in the sport. The issue here is not whether Ruslan is a big puncher. But you seem to have a serious misunderstanding of P4P punching power vs actual, in-ring power. I have to ask though, did you watch the GGG/Murray fight? :think At what point was Murray KTFO? :think

    Murray was never hurt as badly as Tim was in the 2nd and 12th rounds. He was stopped out of absolute exhaustion after taking one of the most brutal and one sided beatings in recent memory that led to an inability to defend himself. But even then he was never out on his feet or hurt as badly as Tim was in the 2nd and 12th rounds against Ruslan. The stoppage that happened in the 11th round of the GGG/Murray fight could just as easily have happened in the 2nd or 12th round of the Provo/Tim fight. If Tim were not one of the most supremely conditioned boxers on the planet it almost certainly would have.

    GGG landed 292 punches and 220 power punches against Murray. Ruslan landed 218 punches and 186 power punches against Tim. So you seriously want me to believe that a man who survived 292 of the best shots from the biggest 160 lb puncher in the world would feel the same effect from 218 of the hardest shots from the biggest 140 lb puncher in the world? :huh

    No one is debating that Tim has one of the absolute best P4P chins (and hearts) in boxing. But to say that he would be more durable at MW than Murray based off of the Ruslan and Pac performances is silly.
     
  10. theXshape

    theXshape Active Member Full Member

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    Look I think Bradley is out of his mind, and I like Bradley (not so much as a boxer but he seems like a nice guy and has a lot of heart ), and even though I think it's a mismatch, that's what Golovkin needs, names on his resume, so I say bring it on.
     
  11. dins1096

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    He must have a death wish. Take what Provodnikov did to Bradley and multiply that by 10.
     
  12. Ducklerr

    Ducklerr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have been trying to explain this to a poor, lost soul for some time now. :verysad
     
  13. YCGS

    YCGS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tim's nuts could crack the Liberty Bell. FACT! :deal
     
  14. MaliBua

    MaliBua Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Once again proven fighter wants to fight ggg but no answer from Bum-love-king... why im not surprised.

    If low skilled willy monroe jr can give ggg hell what would proven action fighter desert storm done to him.
     
  15. reanthefox

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    why doent the jmw champion fight ggg instead when he is willing to go down at the weight?

    what's the problem?

    i mean if froid ran from an injured midget i know he would die of heart attack in the same ring with ggg.

    but he just needs to man up and say it, he is scared.

    nothing wrong with it. even his own father said he was scared of pac.