Arum, King, De la Hoya "The good, the bad and the ugly"

So let me get this straight Arum's expensive lawyer advised his client to settle when he had a slam dunk case?

Your argument that "anyone who has a decent mind would see that Pac has still to see Arum's offer before he can accept or sign any contract, which was not done in this case" is not properly articulated. The question here would be whether a rational mind would conclude that Golden Boy acted with the requisite knowledge in order to constitute interference. Factors such as the behavior, communication between the parties, and the circumstances surrounding the actions of both parties.

It is important to note that Pac entered into a contract with Oscar out of his free will. Moreover, Manny's attorney was present with him thereby it could be asserted that Manny not only acted volitionally but that he understood what he was signing. It was Pac's obligation to disclose the nature of his contract he had with Top Rank, Oscar had no duty to refrain unless he possessed the knowledge that any third party had any claims.

If Golden Boy had no claim with Top Rank, it still had a claim against Pac. The claim as I have already stated is cognizable under both tort and contract law.

 

While it is true that Pac is also at fault in signing the contract, the fact bears out that GBP lost the mediation.

I don't know which part you don't understand?

If you think GBP won the mediation, then so be it!!! Stupid argument.

Fact is Pac should have not signed the contract and what was done can not be undone.

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Let us stop this stupid argument because it is going nowhere.

You believe whatever you want to believe.

 

I hate to say it you are the stupid one. You don't know the law nor do you have access to all the facts. Based upon what is known you formulate an argument for cause of action. Defenses exist to each charge and litigation is expensive. What you call a loss can be interpreted as a victory as Oscar in the end made a profit. While you appear to have a certain semblance of intelligence you simply have a skewed perspective that shelters your ignorance from the truth.

 

Okay, you win, I give up. How about you 30 per cent correct and I get 70 per cent right. That is enough arbitration. No, let's make that 35 per cent correct for you, so that means you win very very very very big.

Win - loss is a relative term. Oscar won because he got 20 per cent of the promotional right while Arum lost because he got 80 percent. I really pity Arum, I wish he would have won.

The fact that you are basing your arguments on something that is not even in media as the details of the mediation is under wraps, and the fact that I am basing mine on legal principles that may have transpired (put the facts on the table, analyze what transpired, and think of possibilities why so ansd so happened as intelligently as the dteails of the whole shenanigan is actually out of public records), leaves us in what we call the "mexican stand-off". No way for both of us to prove our facts.

I give up, you are the genius!!!! Hail to the genius in ESB.:good

 

bob is the worst of the worst bottom line- all arum cares about is bob the sad part is those evil mf's live forever lol i guess they sold their souls to the devil......he is white trash.....don king would be up there but he has fallen off that he is not even a player anymore- oscar well......no words

 

Why dont you tell us how you really feel?:verysad

Gotta love how sneaky you are.

 

it's nice of Don King to actually allow Devon Alexander to fight again in March.

Thanks Don! atsch

 

People say Don King is up "bad", but if you notice all the guys that cut loose from King... Disappear. Guys leave Arum and do better. GBP is too young to know.

Also, when guys get older they don't say too much bad about King. They actually speak highly of him. King might actually be "the good".

Killing a guy in the numbers game I don't count as bad. If you are "living by the sword" you can't call foul if you use the sword or get it used on you.

 

Mike Tyson, for one, speaks in very high regard of King :rofl

 

Tell me what rules of law you are citing and articulate how they apply to the case. Trust me you do not want to go there.

You can not have it both ways you tell me the terms of the settlement are unknown and beyond public records to rebut me, yet you argue based on rumor the percentage could possibly be 10-20%.

My point which you refuse to address is why would they settle with Oscar if he had no case-- as the prevailing party would be able to recover damages including legal costs?

You avoid direct answers and contradict yourself.

Your last response was horrible, this is not fun anymore as I feel that you lack the intellect to make this fun any longer. So I will let you off the hook as charity.

 

de la hoya aint even the main guy of golden boy, schaeffer is.

 

DK did a lot of good for boxing in the late 70s, 80s, 90s. 2000s he did more harm than good. But he will go to the Hall of Fame for sure, and deservedly so.

He had a penchant for fleecing his fighters of their money though, all the way back to Ali. I doubt too many speak highly of him. Infact he is probably the promoter who's had the most lawuits brought against him by his own clients. :deal

 

Nah, Oscar's the majority owner. Yeah, Schaefer is the CEO and top negotiator but Oscar still owns the biggest piece of the pie.

 

Last time I checked Don King and Richard Schaffer didn't tell the entire Boxing Public that they didn't know **** and to go **** themselves, Bob did.