Arum: "Mosely Next, Cotto/Margarito Rematch after"

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  1. 8count

    8count sidekick Full Member

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    Arum says he lets Manny decide but he makes the proposal look like this:

    Dear Manny,

    I calculated what we can earn and please choose (no. 4) which one to take. It is all up to you. Mwatsup.

    1. Marquez - expected Net earnings $10 m
    2. Bradley/Alexander - expected Net earnings $7 m
    3. Berto - expected Net earnings $5 m
    4. MOSELEY (this one this one) - FOR A WHOPPING $$$$40 MILLION DOLLARS (pick this one)

    signed,

    your dear friend BOB
     
  2. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    mosley should retire
    arum should die
    fans should be happy
     
  3. Reppin501

    Reppin501 The People's Champ Full Member

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    Paul Williams can make 147, or Pac could offer him the same 150 catchweight he offered Martinez, interesting fight there. He could fight Berto at 147 which would be interesting, he could fight Martinez at 154 which is a title he currently claims to have. He could fight Alexander/Bradley winner at 140 (****ing weak to make them come up when he can EASILY make that weight), JMM at 140 and that's just off the top of my head.
     
  4. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Arum the real reason the Mayweather fight wont get done !

    Margarcheato rematch are you kidding ?? Pathetic !!
     
  5. mrjotatp4p

    mrjotatp4p THE ONE Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  6. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Economically, this makes sense. And as The Mayweather Crew used to say, if it makes dollars it makes sense.

    Cotto is a very nice draw. He's not fully "rehabilitated" from his loss to Pacquiao, but he's getting there. And this isn't a perfect world, so Cotto might not have the 2-3 more fights that would be ideal to get his name fully back to where you would like it to be for a Pacquiao rematch.

    I think it's fairly clear here that, for Arum, the ideal outcome is that Cotto beats Margarito. That way you have two important "stepping stones" accomplished in Cotto's comeback: Another world title won (vs Foreman) and one of his only losses avenged (Margarito).

    Pacquiao-Cotto II is then sold as a "revenge" fight for Cotto, which would probably make it relatively appealing/viable to the Puerto Rican consumers. Can Cotto take care of "unfinished business" by defeating the only man he has faced (Pac) whom he has never beaten?

    In the meantime, of course, The Best Pound For Pound Fighter and Congressman In The World is only becoming more famous and admired. Hopefully, in Team Pac's view, he again takes care of a former Mayweather foe in more decisive fashion than Floyd did, which will just increase Pac's aura and box office appeal.

    The first Pac-Cotto fight did 1.25M PPV buys. If the above scenarios play out, then Pac-Cotto II -- even with the negativity of Cotto's first loss to Pac -- should do at least 1M PPV, I would think. It could do even more.

    From a business perspective, this is genius. Don King said recently that Arum was schooling Golden Boy/Mayweather in handling the public relations and business end of things, and King's absolutely correct: Arum is clowning these guys. Mayweather has been reduced to releasing photos of him on a yacht to try to even stay relevant. That's a huge fall from the acclaim PBF was getting after the Mosley win.

    The problem for Golden Boy and Mayweather is this: They have no one to blame but themselves. They blew this, totally. And specifically Mayweather blew it. He had the stage in the past, was the top dog, but he gave that up when he avoided two Pacquiao potential fights. Doesn't matter whose fault it is, Mayweather gave Pac and Arum an opening and gambled he (PBF) would be able to keep his leverage but he gambled wrong, and now he's not only looking like a coward, he's lost the top spot for as long as Pac is fighting or at least as long as Pac is fighting and Mayweather and Pacquiao dont fight each other.

    A further, and very real, problem for Mayweather is that now that Arum and Pac have the stage, there is a very good chance they wont even give Mayweather the chance to regain it. You know what that would mean: They wont give Mayweather a fight. And if I were them (Arum, Pac), I wouldn't give Mayweather the fight, either. Floyd thought he had you, now you have him; why give that up?

    As a fan, I would like to see Pac fight Berto. As a businessman, that fight would not be a good move. No one cares about Berto, or even knows him. I would also like to see the Mayweather fight as a fan, but I dont think that fight will ever happen.

    Arum is a shrewd dude. Pac doesn't care. His legacy is totally secure now, and whatever he does from this point on is basically gravy. He wants to maximize his money and fight exciting fights. He feels like he's earned that, and I can't really disagree with him. The guy's been fighting as a pro since, what, he was like 16 years old? He's about to be 32 years old. He's set for life and has a new political and marketing career booming. I'm sure the passion for the sport is waning now.
     
  7. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You haters should be happy with a Cotto rematch, since you love to claim he was drained at 145.
     
  8. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Margarito rematch will not happen, don't know what Arum was thinking there.
     
  9. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    it was pac who personally decided to fight jmm @130 for the rematch when arum gave him a list of options before. the fans were clamoring for that fight at that time and pac gave it to us.

    pac does have a say in whoever he fights. it just has to make economic sense at the same time.
     
  10. t-boy

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    Damn, did Arum really plan to have Pac fight the winner of Cotto/Cheato? Shame if it is true.
     
  11. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    :deal Great post.
     
  12. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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  13. paulfv

    paulfv Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thanks, man. :good Love your avatar!

    It's kind of sad when Floyd fans are writing threads about "who has to die for Pac-PBF to get made?" They know the deal. Floyd had the jack, he gave it up, and now Arum and Pac are probably unlikely to give him the chance to get it back. That's how (business) leverage works: It's great when you have it, not so great when you don't. Pac has the leverage now, and here we are.

    Have a great night. :thumbsup
     
  14. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    lol, margo rematch?
     
  15. Speedtron

    Speedtron Active Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao needs to be blamed if he accepts to fight Mosley, then Cotto/Margarito winner. He is the one to blame. Arum is to blame also. They are both to be blamed. The fans that buy the PPV needs to be blamed too.

    I guess the general population is too dumb to realise this and boycott the PPV.