Arum needs to stop calling Berto unknown

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Uncle Oden, Nov 29, 2010.


  1. Uncle Oden

    Uncle Oden Respect Guzman banned

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    Because if Arum is going to claim not enough people know who Andre Berto is in order to make a fight with Manny then Arum needs to go back and explain why he made a fight with Joshua Clottey.

    Berto has been fighting on HBO for years. He's had plenty of exposure via that network. As of today, Pac-Berto would exceed 700k buys, probably by a good margin.

    And let's talk about well known Shane Mosley. Let's talk about his dismal 100k pay per view buy rate in September, with a full HBO PPV behind him. Once again proving that Mosley is nothing but B side material.

    Mosley does have more name recognition than Berto but either way it's Manny selling that fight. I think an increase # of buys for Mosley instead of Berto would be negligible, if at all.

    But the premise that Berto isn't well known enough is laughable.
     
  2. nip102

    nip102 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Clottey had fought zab judah,cotto,margarito,Corrales,Margarito,Baldomir.Berto has fought sweet **** all and deserves a pac payday as much Jan Zaveck or Vyacheslav Senchenko (here is a great idea about berto fights a top ten ww)
     
  3. Dracon

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    I don't know if those tough European fighters would agree losing their time with someone like Emanuel Pacquiao.:think

    You should ask Herbzg.:lol:
     
  4. MarvellaHogg

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    im just wating for him to come on & post something like that !
     
  5. TIFFOSCO

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    Can anyone tell me who is Berto? Is berto part of top rank?
     
  6. Uncle Oden

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    it's not about who's deserving. It's about name recognition. You appear to be arguing that Clottey was more known in March than Berto is right now. I don't agree with that. I'm aware of who Clottey has fought.
     
  7. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    I dont know if it has come to your attention yet but pac only fights guys who are weight drained shot or catch weight, and even now pac can make 142/141 easy as he eats 7000 calories a day yet fredie said he has to fight at 147 ifr he wants to fight manny.

    Can you idiots not see they will not fight unless a serious and ovious advantage is in their favour.
     
  8. nip102

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    jan zaveck has a bigger name then berto gets bigger tv ratings, gets bigger gates and has a whole country behind him
     
  9. Eastcoast

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    How hard would it be for Berto to unify with Zavek or Senchenko? Instead of fighting guys like Hernandez or Urango, he could've unified the division by now and had some clout.

    Arum should insist Berto take a fight with Clottey before he even be considered for fights with Pacquiao or Cotto. Margarito says he wants to fight in March, how about Berto-Margarito at 150-154?
     
  10. Real_Truth

    Real_Truth Guest

    If Pac was black, you'd be all over his nuts too. You probably wouldn't even like Mayweather then. That's ****ing sad :-(
     
  11. pngo

    pngo #1Contender Full Member

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    Nope, if he was the fight would've been signed already.
     
  12. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    He made a fight with Clottey because people demanded that Pac should fight Clottey rather than Cotto because many thought Clottey won that fight. Berto hasn't had a single major fight and you want his very first step-up to be against none other than the best and P4P#1?
     
  13. spud1

    spud1 HAWK TIME!!!! Full Member

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    Speak for yourself.:lol:
     
  14. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I don't think that most novice boxing fans, who rarely follow the sport would know who Berto is. I of course, think that he's a very good young fighter, but he's no match for Pac.
     
  15. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    Clottey is more well known. He gained fans in the Margarito, Judah, and Cotto fights.

    Berto also has no story other than being a whiny little girl with a temper. The guy was disqualified from the Olympic trials and boxed for Haiti instead. He was put on his ass by Cosme Rivera and his corner decided he needed a glove change and took a very long time to do so. He complained about the Quintana knockdown. He's been deducted multiple points for holding.