Arum NEVER wanted this fight to happen.

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  1. Jab_hard

    Jab_hard Active Member Full Member

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    Bob Arum:
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  2. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    floyd sr. never wanted this fight.. he said it himself.
     
  3. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    In my opinion something fishy is going on. The guy has gone from 122lbs, hes been knocked out in lower weight classes and wasnt able to KO half of his opponents in the lower weight classes, and from the David Diaz fight you see a completley different fighter a massive change in Pacquiao, since the David Diaz fight he has knocked out all 4 opponents. Not just knocked them out but destroyed all the opponents, and these are not bums they were world class fighters. If he had been destroying everyone at the lower weights like Barrera and Marquez then i would understand but he wasnt and now all of a sudden he moves up in weight and just smashes through people.

    and its not just the boxing hes physicaly stronger than guys like Hatton and Cotto who are monsters at there weight. hes gone from 130 to 147 in 18 months and looks just as lean as before, he has put on only muscle. and they say that he is eating 7000cals a day, theres no way you could maintain your weight unless you were training for an extremley long time which is made possible by taking steroids. If your doing intense training for 6-7 hours a day which you would need to do to maintain a 7000cal diet you would need to take stuff.

    Also the drug testing in boxing is complete crap. If it was good then why wasnt Chavez Jnr caught before the fight. The current Nevada test they take blood 2 weeks before the fight but its to check for disease not for drugs. Its just nuts that he was allowed in the ring people can die in a boxing ring and if someone goes in there jacked up its even worse. Theres plenty of ways to beat the extremly strict blood testing i other sports so theres even more ways to beat the drug tests in Boxing.

    When Juan Manuel Marquez went up in weight he looked fat, so did De La Hoya and 160lbs. and sure everyones different but for a 200lbs 6ft4 body builder to gain 15lbs of pure muscle is almost impossible, so how can a guy who is 5ft6 and weights 130lbs do it??? The history of boxing has thousands of fighters moving up in weight and the same thing happens every single time, there body fat goes up, they slow down and the loose power. None of these have happened to Pacquiao infact the opposite has happeend.

    Suddenly Pacquiao team have a problem with blood being taken within 10 weeks of the fight, but speak to a fighter in a world title fight in the states and they will tell you they have given blood 2 weeks before most fights. Why is it a problem all of a sudden. If pacquiao has a problem with needles why does he have tatoos, and personally i dont like having blood taken but i just shut my eyes and bare with it for 30 seconds that it takes and then you feel no different. and i work in IT, Pacquiao is a guy who takes part in the hardest sport in the world, grew up in poverty, gets punches in the face all day long but he is scared of a blood test. If the problem is that it weakens the fighter then thats a crap arguement becuase there doing it to both fighters not just Manny, and its a tiny tiny amount of blood thats being taken it really makes no difference.

    I beleive that what I have said above are all valid points. You can all come and shut them down but its an opinion and theres only one way to proove me wrong and at the moment Team Pacquiao are not prepared to do so. If you think Mayweather is doing this to get out of the fight, why not just call his bluff.
     
  4. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Arum is all about the money and no other fight would bring him more money than this fight,so i have no doubt that he wants this fight to happen.
     
  5. ceebz

    ceebz Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Exactly. Use your damn heads, people. :patsch
     
  6. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    bottom line is if Floyd says "OK no blood testing right before the fight" the fight is ON
     
  7. Killer Instinct

    Killer Instinct Be formless, shapeless... Full Member

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    Paulie? Is that you?
     
  8. Jab_hard

    Jab_hard Active Member Full Member

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    And ?
     
  9. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly.

    The stupidity of some people is beyond words.
     
  10. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    Mayweather has nothing to do with whether pac gets blood testing right before the fight.

    The blood testing is random. That's the whole point.

    The olympic doping agency couldn't say whether they would test pac before the fight, just that they would test him within the 30 days, at least 3-5 times, to keep an eye on both fighters and what is in their systems.

    Pac only wants to give blood at the press conference and after the fight. But at no time does he want to give blood during training camp. This has already been confirmed by Arum.


    Doesn't that seem a bit weird???
     
  11. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Arum is speaking some crap.

    I really dont buy that taking blood weakens the fighter. They aint taking a lot of blood.
    How much blood does he think they take, a pint? Jersey holders in the Tour de France have blood tests every day for three weeks!

    Arum then claims that blood testing irrelevant and its all about urine testing. Who was he talking to?! Almost all of the latest PEDs are detected using blood, not urine. EPO, CERA, HGH, autologous blood transfusions... all done with blood testing.
     
  12. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    that's why he is spewing crap like steriods and ****!
     
  13. Rooney

    Rooney Boxing Junkie banned

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    They will take a TEA SPOON OF BLOOD.:rofl

    Roach has claimed that manny giving blood will make him weak for at least ,,, wait for it......3-4 days:rofl:rofl:rofl

    My mate gave blood last week, he said his arm hurt for about half hour, after that he was back on the basketball court. LOL
     
  14. Jab_hard

    Jab_hard Active Member Full Member

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    And thats why Pac and Roach dont want to take drug test ?
     
  15. milkman11

    milkman11 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's a good argument! I hope this Pacquiao scared of needles are just rumors.