Arum NEVER wanted this fight to happen.

liger05 · Dec 23, 2009

Rooney said: ↑

They will take a TEA SPOON OF BLOOD.:rofl

Roach has claimed that manny giving blood will make him weak for at least ,,, wait for it......3-4 days:rofl:rofl:rofl
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Thats pure BS

Hatesrats · Dec 23, 2009

Arum pulling the strings a puppet master pulls when on top...

TonyPeri · Dec 23, 2009

I'm a big Pac fan and it even makes me think. **** that, if you got nothing to hide agree to the test and kicks Floyd's ass. I would be majorly bummed if it turns out Manny cheated.

abujafar · Dec 23, 2009

PH|LLA said: ↑

bottom line is if Floyd says "OK no blood testing right before the fight" the fight is ON
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Bottom line is if Pacman says "Ok I will do random drug testing like I agreed to then the fight is ON.

kgs83 · Dec 23, 2009

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In my opinion something fishy is going on. The guy has gone from 122lbs, hes been knocked out in lower weight classes and wasnt able to KO half of his opponents in the lower weight classes, and from the David Diaz fight you see a completley different fighter a massive change in Pacquiao, since the David Diaz fight he has knocked out all 4 opponents. Not just knocked them out but destroyed all the opponents, and these are not bums they were world class fighters. If he had been destroying everyone at the lower weights like Barrera and Marquez then i would understand but he wasnt and now all of a sudden he moves up in weight and just smashes through people.

and its not just the boxing hes physicaly stronger than guys like Hatton and Cotto who are monsters at there weight. hes gone from 130 to 147 in 18 months and looks just as lean as before, he has put on only muscle. and they say that he is eating 7000cals a day, theres no way you could maintain your weight unless you were training for an extremley long time which is made possible by taking steroids. If your doing intense training for 6-7 hours a day which you would need to do to maintain a 7000cal diet you would need to take stuff.

Also the drug testing in boxing is complete crap. If it was good then why wasnt Chavez Jnr caught before the fight. The current Nevada test they take blood 2 weeks before the fight but its to check for disease not for drugs. Its just nuts that he was allowed in the ring people can die in a boxing ring and if someone goes in there jacked up its even worse. Theres plenty of ways to beat the extremly strict blood testing i other sports so theres even more ways to beat the drug tests in Boxing.

When Juan Manuel Marquez went up in weight he looked fat, so did De La Hoya and 160lbs. and sure everyones different but for a 200lbs 6ft4 body builder to gain 15lbs of pure muscle is almost impossible, so how can a guy who is 5ft6 and weights 130lbs do it??? The history of boxing has thousands of fighters moving up in weight and the same thing happens every single time, there body fat goes up, they slow down and the loose power. None of these have happened to Pacquiao infact the opposite has happeend.

Suddenly Pacquiao team have a problem with blood being taken within 10 weeks of the fight, but speak to a fighter in a world title fight in the states and they will tell you they have given blood 2 weeks before most fights. Why is it a problem all of a sudden. If pacquiao has a problem with needles why does he have tatoos, and personally i dont like having blood taken but i just shut my eyes and bare with it for 30 seconds that it takes and then you feel no different. and i work in IT, Pacquiao is a guy who takes part in the hardest sport in the world, grew up in poverty, gets punches in the face all day long but he is scared of a blood test. If the problem is that it weakens the fighter then thats a crap arguement becuase there doing it to both fighters not just Manny, and its a tiny tiny amount of blood thats being taken it really makes no difference.

I beleive that what I have said above are all valid points. You can all come and shut them down but its an opinion and theres only one way to proove me wrong and at the moment Team Pacquiao are not prepared to do so. If you think Mayweather is doing this to get out of the fight, why not just call his bluff.
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Are there any FACTS that Pac is juiced???.....errr....NO!.....so Pac has to prove **** to you. The guy is a great fighter, great skills, great dedication....end off.
Fans like you make me sick, just giving the sport a black eye by rumors. You cannot just give a guy credit, it has to be something else hey. Just say you're a hater and let it be. Nothings even happened an ppl are all like 'there's something fishy' LOOOOLLL......just hold tight and wait an see what happens. Then you can say **** when its based on FACTS.

pwright2k · Dec 23, 2009

enzo said: ↑

floyd sr. never wanted this fight.. he said it himself.
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yeah he said it, but under the assumption of pac being dirty. why did Bob say it?

Phenix · Dec 23, 2009

robpalmer135 said: ↑

In my opinion something fishy is going on. The guy has gone from 122lbs, hes been knocked out in lower weight classes and wasnt able to KO half of his opponents in the lower weight classes, and from the David Diaz fight you see a completley different fighter a massive change in Pacquiao, since the David Diaz fight he has knocked out all 4 opponents. Not just knocked them out but destroyed all the opponents, and these are not bums they were world class fighters. If he had been destroying everyone at the lower weights like Barrera and Marquez then i would understand but he wasnt and now all of a sudden he moves up in weight and just smashes through people.

and its not just the boxing hes physicaly stronger than guys like Hatton and Cotto who are monsters at there weight. hes gone from 130 to 147 in 18 months and looks just as lean as before, he has put on only muscle. and they say that he is eating 7000cals a day, theres no way you could maintain your weight unless you were training for an extremley long time which is made possible by taking steroids. If your doing intense training for 6-7 hours a day which you would need to do to maintain a 7000cal diet you would need to take stuff.

Also the drug testing in boxing is complete crap. If it was good then why wasnt Chavez Jnr caught before the fight. The current Nevada test they take blood 2 weeks before the fight but its to check for disease not for drugs. Its just nuts that he was allowed in the ring people can die in a boxing ring and if someone goes in there jacked up its even worse. Theres plenty of ways to beat the extremly strict blood testing i other sports so theres even more ways to beat the drug tests in Boxing.

When Juan Manuel Marquez went up in weight he looked fat, so did De La Hoya and 160lbs. and sure everyones different but for a 200lbs 6ft4 body builder to gain 15lbs of pure muscle is almost impossible, so how can a guy who is 5ft6 and weights 130lbs do it??? The history of boxing has thousands of fighters moving up in weight and the same thing happens every single time, there body fat goes up, they slow down and the loose power. None of these have happened to Pacquiao infact the opposite has happeend.

Suddenly Pacquiao team have a problem with blood being taken within 10 weeks of the fight, but speak to a fighter in a world title fight in the states and they will tell you they have given blood 2 weeks before most fights. Why is it a problem all of a sudden. If pacquiao has a problem with needles why does he have tatoos, and personally i dont like having blood taken but i just shut my eyes and bare with it for 30 seconds that it takes and then you feel no different. and i work in IT, Pacquiao is a guy who takes part in the hardest sport in the world, grew up in poverty, gets punches in the face all day long but he is scared of a blood test. If the problem is that it weakens the fighter then thats a crap arguement becuase there doing it to ptaken it really makes no difference.

I beleive that what I have said above are all valid points. You can all come and shut them down but its an opinion and theres only one way to proove me wrong and at the moment Team Pacquiao are not prepared to do so. If you think Mayweather is doing this to get out of the fight, why not just call his bluff.
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Excellent post. I hope that the Pac crew gives out more detail in just how and what type of affect does giving a teaspoon of blood have on him.

BewareofDawg · Dec 23, 2009

I don't think either camp wanted this fight, they wanted the money. There legacies are better with a "?" mark then with an "L". Sadly.

el_caviteno · Dec 23, 2009

TonyPeri said: ↑

I'm a big Pac fan and it even makes me think. **** that, if you got nothing to hide agree to the test and kicks Floyd's ass. I would be majorly bummed if it turns out Manny cheated.
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The same should be said of Junior. If he has nothing to hide, fight PAC and agree to the testing after the fight. If PAC is on roids then PAC will feel the punishment of his believers and haters.

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