Barrera along with RJJ are my favorite modern fighters and I make no excuses for Barrera. In his best day, Pac's style would cause problems.
Barrera was a dirty fighter, but he deserves a tremendous amount of respect. The guy gave us great wars and great memories. He gave so much to the sport, beginning when he was only 15 years old. Plus he was able to come back from defeats and improve his game and overall versatility. That's what allowed him to have a longer career than Morales and perform at a higher level even in 2007. I consider that smart. I don't see anything wrong with Barrera fighting to survive in the last Pacquiao fight. He wanted to avoid a crushing stoppage loss in his last fight, and with all the wars he's had, there's absolutely nothing wrong with him trying to preserve his health. What do you mean by "a boxer is prime until he leaves the sport"? It's pretty clear that Vargas, Morales, Holyfield, and Hopkins aren't prime.
:good what arum is saying is part of the hype! some people take practically everything seriously. Some fans even analyze and disect everything is being said. He is a promoter remember!!?!!!.
Arum talking **** like every other self-involved promoter. Marquez beat Pac already, and Pac has losses early on his career. He can be beat and has been.
good post. :good no excuses for pac, win or lose this march. http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47281
KG, I thought your the UNBIASED boxing fan of ESB. Would be interesting to hear your reply on this DAY DREAMER. "Marquez beat Pac ALREADY?!!" selfkill, "Marquez beat pac already" Says who? I never seen that in the BOXING REC.com or ANY OTHER LEGITIMATE sources?! Oh I see, you see yourself as the legitimate source and who ever sanctioned the fight of pac vs jmm is ILLEGITIMATE coz their records does not match what you are saying?! NEXT TIME DON'T SAY SOMETHING YOU CAN'T PROVE COZ I might THINK you are BLACK. SAYING SOMETHING HE CAN'T PROVE. PRAISE AND KISS THE ASS OF JMM AS LONG AS YOU WANT BUT DON'T SAY SOMETHING YOU CAN'T PROVE. "MARQUEZ beat pac already" - Divac, can you kindly correct this guy, Obviously he does not know the difference between REALITY and FANTASY! we don't want another BLACK tpye of guy. Maybe you are BLACK himself reincarnated to another name!?
Get a grip my friend..... .....it is sk's opinion that Marquez already beat Pac, I happen to agree with him!:yep :bbb :hi:
Why are you calling me out? I hadn't been in this thread for nearly 23 hours when you posted this! Regardless, it's his OPINION that JMM won the first fight. Obviously it's listed as a draw. There are many who feel Marquez won the first fight, and of course many who feel the opposite as well.
Yes, I thought Marquez won the first fight also. I have to say that PAC is a very exciting fighters though.
I understand but the way it's written as if it's a fact. There a difference between an OPINION and a FACT! Even if you agree on a certain opinion does it make it a fact? Sometimes we get confused with facts and opinion.
THATs what I want to hear. It's a DRAW. But how was it written. He clearly said JMM already beat pac. That's an opinion. Obviously there is A BIG DIFFERENCE between an opinion and a fact. Funny thing is, you and I know that the jugdge admitted he made a mistake in the scoring so technically if it's was corrected pac could have won it correct? So in essense who was robbed? Yup! If the fans don't like the results. They always claim they were robbed! anyway, called your attention to make sure you also police the other side not just monitoring the pac fans. thats all
:good Read first before post buddy PAC will beat the hell out of JMM this will be KO and will give a ticket for him to retire :bbb