Arum tells marquez the road to pacquiao is through valero

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  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    just FYI, Finito is Korean:smoke
     
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  2. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    JMM fought a young but feather fisted fighter! LOL if that was valero hitting JMM in the early rounds he wouldn't have seen the third round.

    It's quite obvious why valero and arum wants JMM more than others (hatton, Pac)... He might be one of the best but he is also hittable as seen in the diaz fight and not only that he also has the weakest chin compared to fighters mentioned.

    With valero's power One shot and it will be over!
     
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  3. scatterbrain

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    ouch. but well on point. :rofl
     
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  4. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    JMM is the counter-puncher though and Pac and Hatton are very hittable. Enzo, why you suddenly believe in Valero? Just cause you want Valero to beat JMM right?:think Ricky Hatton has the worst chin of the three. JMM has been down but not KTFO like Hatton or hurt as much.
     
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  5. aztec1

    aztec1 UNDERDOG Full Member

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    Co-sign....
     
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  6. scatterbrain

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    that is wrong analysis. sure, hatton was knocked out after getting hit in the chin, but he was hit by someone who fought as high as 154.

    while the one which sent jmm to the canvas fought at 130 and 135.
    can you imagine jmm getting kd by someone like mosley. do you really expect him to be up and about just like that?
     
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  7. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Diaz is feather fisted though and if it was Valero in there I know it might not have lasted long! Like I said I would like to see Valero get as big a fight as JMM, but I don't feel JMM should have to fight Valero to get Pac.:rasta
     
    Jeff M, Apr 7, 2009
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  8. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Mosley? WTF? That's no comparison to getting hit by Floyd. Floyd is closer to a LWW than a true WW. The only reason Floyd can even fight in weights higher than his natural weight class is his style. He's not that big compared to top WW's.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 7, 2009
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  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    I believe in his power... :good

    And as seen in JMM's previous fights he is hittable... even power puff diaz put him to ***** streets. :deal

    valero has more chance of beating weak chin marquez. :-D
     
    enzo, Apr 7, 2009
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  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Floyd's hands have been bad for years on top of that. The ring post did as much damage to Ricky as Floyd did! lol
     
    Jeff M, Apr 7, 2009
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  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    You're telling me Pac and Hatton don't get tagged often?:-(
     
    Jeff M, Apr 7, 2009
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  12. scatterbrain

    scatterbrain Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that is not the point. hatton fought pbf at 147 and obviously they weighed more than that at fight night.

    the power alone generated by that additional mass can be significant.
     
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  13. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    I don't think he has a weak chin, even with being KD 4 times against Pac.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 7, 2009
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  14. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Well, after May 2nd Hatton will be bordering on having a glass jaw.
     
    Jeff M, Apr 7, 2009
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  15. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    All of them are hittable... Marquez had trouble with fast punchers and even though valero might not have pac's speed he still fast and definitely has power in both hands.

    Stylewise Power-puncher Valero has more chance of beating counter-puncher marquez with his weak chin than beating the speedster with power pac and his new found skill. :D
     
    enzo, Apr 7, 2009
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