Arum to ask Pacquiao to rethink blood objection

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  1. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    I'm all for Pacquiao taking the test just to be done with it already. But I also see his point of view, why him? Why now? Will all fighers be subjected to this going forward? Why is he being singled out? Because he's been way too good and Sr can't explain it so he takes the crackhead approach? To put all the blame soley on Pac is completely unjust in this case.
     
  2. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    So what is he doing now that he hasn't done in the past?
    His workrate and stamina has always been excellent. He's always had the same ferocity he's displaying now. So he's knocking out bigger and better competition, right that must be it. Has anyone actually paid attention to his last 4 fights? He's mainly knocking these cats down or completely out on accumulation or punches that they don't see coming in.

    How much punishment did Diaz take before he finally went down for good? The KO shot, was right on the button was it not? Did anyone listen to the post fight interview? Yeah the one where Diaz pulled off comedy gold. .."it's not so much his power, it's his speed". Hmmm, speed , something Pac's ALWAYS had.

    We all saw what kind of punishment Hoya took. Again a long night of an offensive barrage from Manny. ODLH got tired of being a punching bag and quit on his stool. What was key here, speed, punches from angles and relentless pressure.

    Hatton must have fooled a lot of people here into thinking Pacquiao is this heavy hittin mofo. Bottom line, Ricky was completely outclassed. The KO shot was again right on the money and he didn't see it coming.

    Now on to Cotto. How did Pacquiao take him out? With the very same tools that he used with the previous 3. Speed, accuracy, angles from which is not expected, and relentless pressure. Everything here is again something Pacquiao's always done.

    I don't understand how people here can completely dismiss the fact that Pacquiao is just getting better as a fighter. Gone are his 1-2 days and his overall skillset has improved. He's coming together as a complete fighter and if people just looked at the big picture objectively then it's clear as day. The proof is in the ring. The man has just gotten better and it's unsettling to those who are in his way.
     
  3. Floyd Senior is an idiot ill say that, but it does take one dopehead to know another one. And I hate to say it but i'm starting to think that the crackhead trainer, fighter and poetic writer is correct about pac and his juicing. I understand pac mans point of view also, but its his initial responses that make him look suspect.
     
  4. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    That's the thing about Sr. In a matter of 14 rounds of boxing, he went from calling Manny Pacquiao "amateurish" to accusing him of using PED's. That's nothing but crackhead logic and I'm definitely not ready to tear down a man who's worked his ass straight off the streets of a 3rd world country, to the pinnacle of boxing with nothing more than envy as my reason. That **** is pathetic, don't let him fool you.

    Personally I was about 90% convinced PBF would beat Pac by decision prior to the Cotto fight. I'm sure Sr was about 110% sure. But what happened? PacMan went in there and tore **** up vs a fighter they may or may not have avoided and that surely got their attention.
    All of a sudden this threat is REAL and that heavily protected 0 isn't so tamper proof after all. What happens next? You guessed it, crackhead on a mic in full effect.
     
  5. IPitydaFo0l

    IPitydaFo0l ATG in the making Full Member

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    If Manny is in fact cheating then he'd disappoint me to no end and my support would come to a screeching halt. He would be on his own as far as I'm concerned.

    But seriously, I don't think that he is....or at least, he's not doing anything different than anyone else. With the way this place has been you would think he's using SUPERMAN pills that only Ariza knows about
     
  6. Bee KeepZ

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    "Now that I've learned more about this, boxing now will have an outspoken advocate for blood testing in the sport," Schaefer said. "I plan to ask Nevada to have Travis Tygart explain why blood tests are necessary. This is not about hitting a baseball, throwing a football or hitting a puck. This is a sport that's mano-a-mano, with guys hitting each other's heads. It's important that the strongest testing possible is in place."

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    "No. 2, we would agree to take the blood test in January within 30 days of the fight and any other random blood tests that the Nevada State Athletic Commission elected to do without a timeline," said Arum. "We're so confident that the Nevada Commission would do the right thing that we don't have to put a timeline in there."
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    GL: As of now have any petitions been filed?

    KK: "No."
     
  7. Hmmm

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    I think many fans simply dont get why he refuses. Not all fans who think this necessarily believe that he is Indeed on drugs, they just dont get the petty excuses for not complying. I personally doubt Pac is on anything but cant for the life of me understand his determination to avoid the tests at all costs. Remeber PBF will undergo the EXACT SAME tests.

    I remember reading about how Pac said he felt drained after being tested a few years back. That was because he was indeed trying to make weight and had already been dehydrating. In this current case though he is the smaller man rising to 147 and will have to do little if no dehydrating, therefore it is actually PBF who will be shedding the pounds to make weight and he has much more to lose from tests close to the fight date...
     
  8. IPitydaFo0l

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    I won't pretend I even have a clue as to why he won't just go ahead and take it. Maybe it's pride, or principle. Maybe both. The guy has been nothing but a class act and has helped boxing rise back up into the mainstream. Maybe he's taking it personal that someone as idiotic as Sr can actually bring him down this hard.

    People constantly say "for 40 million, I'd take the test". Well Manny is filthy rich as it is from his prize fights and endorsements. He can still make millions fighting others as well. So it's completely short sighted for those saying this to expect the same from Pacquiao. We're not in his shoes so our situation does not apply to him one bit.
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Juiceman doesn't want the fight for these reasons.
    1. He knows he's not clean and juicing and can't pass the random blood tests.
    2. He knows Floyd is a stylistic nightmare for him and will make him look foolish.
    3. Both reasons 1&2.
     
  10. Pimp C

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    Juiceman doesn't want the fight for these reasons.
    1. He knows he's not clean and juicing and can't pass the random blood tests.
    2. He knows Floyd is a stylistic nightmare for him and will make him look foolish.
    3. Both reasons 1&2.
     
  11. IPitydaFo0l

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    Someone explain to me how you go from calling someone amateurish to using PED's in a matter of 14 rounds :deal
     
  12. Toopretty

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    Tell me how a fighter fighting at a weight where he does not have to cut any weight will be drained by random blood tests. Its ****ing common sense and not this tranny ass ******* knowledge. Your are a pro athlete doing a ****ing job. What if all other top athletes accused of doping "refused testing" lol. That is a ****ing admission of guilt by WORLD standards. Have you bitches even watched the olympics? Baseball? lol. People who do dope the **** out of their body still beat random tests and that is the MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO TEST FOR STEROIDS. If it is not the most effective way and the NSAC **** test pre and post fight is the way to go..lol Then you need to untuck your little tranny nuts and man up. You dumb asses.
     
  13. IPitydaFo0l

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    One thing I noticed about a lot of these Flyodettes is that some of them used to actually be Pac fans and used to show support. The change came even before their Supreme Crackhead Sr leader opened his wretched mouth about PED's. It came when Pac actually became a threat to their manlove crush PBF. It just goes to show most of these idiots have the mentality of a schoolboy ******.
     
  14. time

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    Come on pac, just agree to blood testing up to a sensible cut off point (maybe 3 to 10 days) and lets get it on, time to move this forward, if you have nothing to hide then this is the best option
     
  15. IPitydaFo0l

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    I hope they can come to some type of reasonable agreement.