Arum vs Spence vs Crawford...who you got?

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  1. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bob Arum: &quot;I talked to Al Haymon, he's amenable to the fight. Spence is the obstacle. Spence throws out numbers and percentages. We believe Crawford will beat him, unfortunately Spence believes the same. Don't blame Haymon, blame Spence.&quot; [3 Knockdown Rule] <a href="https://t.co/8vpvjHrpQX">pic.twitter.com/8vpvjHrpQX</a></p>&mdash; Michael Benson (@MichaelBensonn) <a href="
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">���� lien ass bob strikes again <a href="https://t.co/ewbLsWbQ2L">https://t.co/ewbLsWbQ2L</a></p>&mdash; Errol Spence (@ErrolSpenceJr) <a href="
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I been champion since March 1st 2014. 7 straight years is coming up, 3 different weight classes, If I was to retire right now the Hall of Fame would be the next accomplishment. Sorry can’t say the same for....</p>&mdash; Terence Crawford (@terencecrawford) <a href="
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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">All those accomplishments with names people won’t remember ����....</p>&mdash; Errol Spence (@ErrolSpenceJr) <a href="
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    So in other words, Spence as A-Side says "accept this and the fight happens", Crawford as B-Side says "...but these accomplishments doe!" And Spence as A-Side says "yeah, against people nobody knows or cares about".

    I'm sorry, I don't see the problem here. Sounds like the real issue is Crawford not accept B-Side status.

    Spence can demand whatever money he wants, he's the unified champion. Don't like it? Fight Porter.

    Hall of FAME doesn't feed your kids.
     
  2. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    I’m amazed at how much these trained fighters whine and complain like dramatic emo sixteen year olds over social media.

    B.S. like this been going on so damn long it is no wonder garbage like YouTube boxing and Tyson Jones exhibitions are out selling championship fights.
     
  3. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What exactly is ESjr's convincing argument he's the A-side on this? Lets be honest, NEITHER guy has much leverage against the other to pull this "I'm the A side" garbage. These two are becoming a joke. Should be 50-50. And TC is correct about Spence. Only way he gets to the HOF today is buying a ticket.
     
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  4. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spence has 2 belts and all of his (3) PPV have done over 300k while Crawford has 1 belt and has had 2 PPV which has done 100k on 1 PPV and 60K on his other.

    Not to mention Spence has sold out in Texas in the 3 times he's fought there while Crawford has only sold out 2 times out of the 6 times he's fought in Nebraska.

    Boxing is a business...we are getting punched in the head, they are.
     
  5. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Those numbers are hardly big enough to keep this fight stalling. Very few people still know who either guy is.
     
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  6. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    Does Spence really not know how to spell lying?
     
  7. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Nonsense. Crawford should agree to Spence terms and the fight is made. Problem solved.
     
  8. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What terms? What's the split? Who's promoting? What venue?
     
  9. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm just going to assume it was some sort of Dallas country slang because if it wasn't, IF IT WASN'T....as much of a fan I am of his, his next fight should be with a book!!
     
  10. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Besides garcia both Spence fights did sub 250k. Spence has been helped with having the competition put Crawford vs Garcia on it would sell similar number. Maybe not quite as high but not far off. Both guys need the fight to having a legacy. They are both hitting the age where they will miss the boat.

    Neither guy makes over $10m without each other
    I can see 55-45 to Spence in order to make this happen.

    in my opinion the way to do it would be to bet on yourself and go 60-40 to the winner.
     
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  11. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Spence wants 60/40 for the fight...once Crawford agrees to that, I think that everyone will work itself out.
     
  12. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't even think they make 10 mill WITH each other. Not with those numbers. 55-45 sounds good. But truth is, they will let ego ruin this and I HOPE both falter after that.
     
  13. uranage

    uranage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    There is no history of neither Garcia doing PPV numbers as well as Porter but Spence has fought on PPV 3 times and his numbers don't lie.
    The PPVs success is due to him.

    Other than that, I agree with you on the 55-45 with the 60-40 going to the winner in the rematch...either way, Spence should get the lion share in the first fight, not Crawford.
     
  14. MagicE

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    Delusions of grandeur on both sides
     
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  15. Fuzzykat

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    Hope it happens. That's a fight where I can't pick a winner.