As a Cotto fan, I doubt he cheated...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by VARG, Jan 29, 2009.


  1. maz

    maz New Member Full Member

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    I dont think its beyond reasonable doubt. In a somewhat exaggerated analogy...if a man is suspected of one murder and convicted of a totally separate one, it would be crazy to convict him of the first murder because he was prove to have commited the second. Yes it would make his defence 10x harder but it wouldnt make him indefendable.

    By the way beyond reasonable doubt doesnt mean "its reasonable to assume". It means that logic dictates that there is no other option.
     
  2. 4Rounder

    4Rounder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    So according to the article:

    Nevada provides the gauze.

    California lets the fighters bring their own.

    This is good enough to clarify there was nothing illegal going on in the Cotto fight.
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Maybe what Naz could have been getting at is that Margo used them in California before...

    Like when he fought Williams... Perhaps?
     
  4. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    You're being naive hre Zak. And thats not your style.

    You honestly think the first time he ever did this was against a fighter he was a 4-1 favorite to beat?
     
  5. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yep.
     
  6. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yea no evidence no case everyone needs an excuse
    they said"pretreated" and they said they wet and dried the gauze repeatedly
    and this gave them a stiffer product to work with
    this would make the gauze stiffer
    therefore reducing the stretch of the gauze and helping in balling the fist tighter
    and also giving off a dusty residue
     
  7. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    besides plaster stays soft while wet
    it is not able to dry
    and if it was already dry the sweat from his hands would soak it and therefore go soft
     
  8. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    As far as we know from the evidence, at least with respect to the fights in Nevada, since THEY provide the gauze, it is at the very least HIGHLY unlikely that it occured in THOSE fights, Cotto in particular. Could it have occurred in other states with less rigorously supervision than Nevada? Sure, it's possible. But again, where's the EVIDENCE?
     
  9. DatBo215

    DatBo215 Active Member Full Member

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    The question I think everyone should ask themselves is why? Why would he in a fight in which he is the clear favorite, is not a pay-per view main event, and is against what was regarded as a fading superstar would he debut illegal handwraps. If he cheated against mosely it is "fair" to assume that he did the same in a bigger, more meaningful fight against Cotto. It is some what odd that people would believe that , if proven guilty, this was his first time.
     
  10. Zakman

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    Again, the odds of that happening in Nevada - a state with a strong commission that apparently PROVIDES the gauze that fighters use to wrap their hands - are extremely minimal. If it is proven that he did it in the Mosley fight, people might have some grounds for SUSPECTING that he did it fights held in states with less rigorous regulation, but not in a state like Nevada where they have well-established supervision procedures and where the COMMISSION PROVIDES THE GAUZE!
     
  11. Guru_Too_You

    Guru_Too_You ESB OG circa '99 Full Member

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    When is the gauze provided? Do you know? Anyone know?

    I don't, but would love to know.
     
  12. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So they provide the guaze...doesnt necessarily mean you have to use it...The padding was found underneath the wraps...he couldve very easily have put the padding underneath the provided guazes...

    Even communities with strong police forces, still deal with crime
     
  13. K0NPHL1C7

    K0NPHL1C7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Don Kings "corruption" you so often point out, WAS NEVER PROVEN.

    Hypocrite.
     
  14. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Yeah, he BRIBED the juries!! :rofl
     
  15. maz

    maz New Member Full Member

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    I just watched the cotto margarito fight again. I dont think margarito did anything wrong. Cotto had a bad game plan (he clinched about once a round) and margarito chased him round the ring. It would be interesting to see how many punches cotto took to the head in the fight. Even on the inside he was getting hit time after time in the face.

    Even if he is found guilty of attempted cheating at the mosley fight its pretty clear to see he didnt cheat for the cotto fight (dispite the fact that i originally thought it was looking that way).