"As a promoter you don't want the most difficult fight."

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  1. Flyers2001

    Flyers2001 Active Member Full Member

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    These are words from Oscars mouth. "As a promoter you don't want the most difficult fight."

    This is exactly what is wrong with boxing. I commend Canelo for taking this fight. Someone should remind promoters what their job is. They work for the fighter. There job should be to promote the fight. They should have insight in regards to matchups, ie: who sells, but not the outright power of selecting fights for the sake of protection or cashing out.

    Oscar's words make me sick and lead me to believe that GBP's future is not very bright without Dick and/or Haymon.
     
  2. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    can you blame him? canelo is his top dog
     
  3. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I don't like Canelo, but it is good that he gave Lara his shot. I also hope that he flinches away from Lara's jabs like he did Mayweather and gets further embarrassed.
     
  4. Flyers2001

    Flyers2001 Active Member Full Member

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    yes, I can blame him. Promoters, managers and many fans are so afraid of a loss. The best fighters to ever lace them up have L's. This sport is driven more by the fans than any other sport and the fans want the best fighting the best. L's will happen.
     
  5. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Promoters take on a huge financial risk. Obviously, if you're continually promoting a particular fighter, the promoter will take a financial hit if said fighter doesn't perform well enough. So it's pretty understandable that a promoter would perfer to have his fighters in there with easy opposition.

    Just think of a serious poker player. Those guys don't make money by continually challenging the best poker players around. Instead, they all prefer to line their pockets by beating up the weakest players at the table. Boxing is very similar in that aspect. Now of course, it's not practical for a fighter to get away with continually fighting soft opposition. At the same time though, continually trying to fight the toughest opposition out there is not a good move from a financial standpoint.

    It's a diffucult balancing act for a promoter; limiting the risk their fighters are exposed to while also keeping his appeal with the fans high via credible opposition. Until you're the one with your money on the line though, it's hard to criticize these promoters for looking out for their wallets.
     
  6. Just Rik

    Just Rik Boxing Addict Full Member

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    But what he said is still the truth, as a fan you want the most difficult fight because that is the most challenging/entertaining but you do not have an investment in the fight, you do not lose money if your fighter loses. The problem is not the promoter's or manager's they are simply applying business tactics to a business as they should in looking for the highest reward lowest risk. And as in all business the consumer speaks with what they are willing to support, so the problem is the consumer/fan.
     
  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    **** would hit the fan if he does
     
  8. Lady Girl

    Lady Girl Kneel Before Zod! Full Member

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    hes fighting lara. come on:lol: de la hoya being honest. arum stinks the joint out time and time again
     
  9. STB

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    Promoters have been doing this since the dawn of professional boxing.
     
  10. Flyers2001

    Flyers2001 Active Member Full Member

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    I fully understand what you are saying. The promoter will stand to make more if the cards are entertaining. Its more about money management in not over paying the fighters or not attracting enough sponsorship's.

    A great job of promoting is having Crawford fight in his hometown against a live opponent. A terrible job is wasting away Bradley vs. Alexander in Detroit. (The fight was a dud, but the opportunity of two top 140's at the time was real.)

    It's a promoter's job to sell the fight and when you have two great fighters going against each other the less promoting you actually have to do.

    For as much as an ass Don King was, he always put on great PPV cards of the best fighting the best.
     
  11. Flyers2001

    Flyers2001 Active Member Full Member

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    Yes he is fighting Lara by the demands of Canelo, not ODLH. ODLH who lost multiple times should know that it does not kill a career, but in many cases enhances one's career, by continually testing themselves against the best.
     
  12. Scar

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    This is proper management and securing a better future for these guys who risk their lives going in the ring to entertain simple minded fools like you. Sending a fighter to face off tough opposition over and over will eventually ruin the fighter. Some easy and stay active fights here and there are necessary.

    Remember, these fighters don't go through the same exact training camp for every opponent like clueless idiots think. When the opponent is going to be a tough one, they go through a severe training camp and such training camps take a lot out of a fighter. Just take a look at Sergio Martinez' injuries late in his career as one very recent example idiots tend to overlook.
     
  13. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I think he's more or less just trying to hype the fight. Who else could Canelo fight at 154 lbs., honestly?

    Trout rematch, Molina (whose career is almost in shatters--I doubt anyone would buy a PPV with his name on it due to all the issues)?

    I would like to see him fight Kirkland or Andrade, but I don't think those fights can happen anytime soon.
     
  14. Scar

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    Alvarez can't even make 154 anymore.
     
  15. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not sure exactly what you're point is, but it seems to me that you're equating the most difficult fights with the fights with the most economic potential. Am I on the right track?