as far as i'm concerned..Fedor would submit both

From what i've seen a few minutes ago...(couldn't watch the fight live).. Fedor would submit both for sure. You can start the flamming all you want but no sane mma fan who's been watching this sport for years can believe that either Couture or Lesnar has something on this guy.

Before lesnar vs couture took place , i had it as a 50/50.
This was based on the fact that Couture has always been known for struggling against bigger wrestlers. (Barnett , Ricco) and to a certain point , even Randleman (who's not as big as the likes of ricco or barnett).

I even made a thread about it.
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94234

Having said that , Couture did gr8 at handling the big guy against the cage. (especially for someone of his size). And the ending was ultra disappointing. Couture got caught by a seemingly weak punch.

Obviously , i wasn't at the other end of the impact so i don't know how powerful it truely was and maybe it only takes a punch like this to ko someone...(a guy like lesnar is pretty huge & strong).

But overall i'd say the fight itself was a bit of a disappointement and i have no doubt in my mind that Fed would own both. Regardless of what happens vs Arlovski in january.

I truely hope that either Mir or Nogueira (i'm personally rooting for nog) , grabs the belt back...

 

on the same fcking night !
And by the way , i personally no longer care to see Couture vs Fedor.
As a matter of fact , i'm not even interested in seeing an eventual lesnar vs fed.

I don't think the ufc needs fedor...(dana would rather have Lesnar as a champ and i bet he's crossing his fingers & hoping that either mir or nog get both killed by this guy)...nor do i believe that fed needs them to prove anything...i'd rather see fed vs arlovski or barnett at this point..or kharitonov.

 

oh and by the way , i hope no one blames randy's loss on age and all...
Because afterall , let's not forget that he defeated Sylvia & Gonzaga last year.

Granted , Couture hasn't been fighting since 2007 prior to last night , but Lesnar still deserves credit for this victory. (i'm just not impressed by it though).

Everything Lesnar or Couture does..Fedor can do it better.

Lesnar defeated Herring by UD...fine
Fedor mauled herring , disfigured his ass , forcing him to abandon the fight.

Couture defeated Sylvia by UD...ok
Fed , took 36 seconds to submit him..that's less time that he needed to finish Hong man Choi !

Couture has 5 wins & 2 legit losses in Rings.

Fedor has 10 wins & one loss , and left "rings" with the belts.

 

I'm actually starting to like this hw division.
Even though nobody in this div is on par with emelianenko...I don't think ufc's hw div is hopeless...I'm verye xcited to see Mir vs Nogueira for example.

I think Mir has what it takes to pull a submission. (nog's got a real weakness...heel hooks & kneebars..It almost happened vs Barnett & Ricco was able to do it in ADCC (Abu Dhabi Combat Club) , ok it wasn't mma but it was a pretty good indication...And Barnett proved that it could happen again...

The reason why Mir's case isn't hopeless is because he's loves to pull these types of submissions. The question is will he be able to capitalise on it ? Who knows...

With Nog's age...(the guy hasn't been the same since 2005 anyway)...anything can happen.

Right now , i'm still giving the edge to Nogueira though. But it's closer than most are thinking imo. Mir's weakness is that he can't last the distance...Nog is one hell of an endurant fighter...(even now).
so all in all , this fight should be very interesting.

Also , Gonzaga is inconsistent but still a legit threat to anyone. (he hits pretty hard too ) and his bjj is top notch. (not when confronted with the likes of Werdum but otherwise...it's great ).

Lesnar's wrestling abilities are also great. He also seems like a powerful guy but right now , he's also ultra overrated.

I'm also curious to see what Junior dos santos will bring next on the table...

Overall , ufc's hw division is by far the weakest on they've got...But there's some interesting match ups here and there.

Maybe fedor should send his brother over there to spice things up a bit lol...anyway , i'm looking forward to see fed vs arlovski , should be a great fight...i'm giving fed a major advantage though. But again , anything can happen..and maybe arlovski will be able to pull the upset of mma history..

 

it seemed very weak but again...we also have to concider a few things..
1 maybe it landed in a bad spot..
2 i don't think he saw it coming..
3 Who knows how powerful a punch like that truely is when it's coming from a guy who's as huge as Lesnar.

But yes...it really seemed like a weak ass punch for sure. and the g&p was **** too. (but Couture was already stunned at that point)

 

I seriously doubt it. And i'd even go as far as to say that it's an insult to the sport. Because it implies that it only takes a guy of Lesnar's size 4 or 5 warm up fights to dominate in this sport & beat the most dominant fighter in the sport's history.

Let me guess...Lesnar is the next Jacare isn't he ? Let's give him one more year and he'll be able to pull "Shinya Aoki-like" type of submissions right ?..

Do you guys realise how many years the likes of Nogueira , Jacare , Arona , Kawajiri , Aoki , Hansen , Barnett etc....have been working on these disciplines ? Do you honestly believe that it's easy to reach a submission defense of the likes of Fedor or Penn ?

 

Then you don't know enough about the sport.