As Haye was champ, had he decided to take on Pianeta as a voluntary defense

atschatschatsch Audley was **** and still is!
Who is Rogan? He was KOed twice by Sexton... I really believe you people are just trolling you cant be serious!
Ruiz was a mandatory? How this? He lost against Valuev and won his next fight against a Journeyman... (19-10). How did he become a mandatory for a title fight?
At least Wladimir faces real mandatories and not old and shot fighters like Ruiz!

 

Far from the best, he's a totally unproven novice. The best names on his resume (not counting Botha & McCall for obvious reasons) are Skelton, Page and Sosnowski, none of which he got rid of early and none of which are actually any good.

Harrison, Ruiz, Valuev, Chisora and Barrett have all beaten far better guys than that. Pianeta is below those guys but above the other lowly HWs that Haye fought earlier on in his career.

But hey, you don't like David Haye so obviously none of that is true!

 

i forgot he beat Chisora atsch

in that case, he has a better resume for sure, but I disagree about Ruiz, Audley and Barrett, they were almost 40 when they fought Haye, their best days were far behind them, Pianeta would probably beat them all as well (maybe not by KO, as he doesn't have big power) but Chisora beat top HW Helenius, so he should be considered Haye's best win at HW to that, and a better win than any of Pianeta's

 

Of course Wlad gets stick for this fight, only fair... but Haye "fought" freakin' Audley, wich is so much worse!

 

Them three rounds beat anything Pianeta has done thus far.

Rogan would go 29-0 through Pianeta's resume.

And I don't know how Ruiz became mandatory, I don't work for the WBA, if this was a mandatory I wouldn't have a bad word to say about it.

Pianeta is unproven, granted Audley hasn't turned out to be great but the same as Rogan he would likely defeat every fighter Pianeta has faced.

 

Ironic because Haye DID have a belt, and DID defend it against WORSE opposition.

There wasn't even much of a **** storm when Haye-Audley was signed. All the brittards defended it saying "It's a solid money fight for Haye, and it will actually be a pretty good fight. Audley didn't meet expectations but he's decent and has a gold medal!"

Pianeta would be Haye's best win at HW. Hilarious and true LOL

 

Ruiz was his WBA mandatory, that's all you need to know. Mandatory defences are compulsory.

If you want more information on it:

Ruiz was in line for another shot at Valuev because of a previous disputed decision, however Sauerland cut a deal with Haye and Ruiz agreed to step aside. I assume he either saw Haye as an easier opponent (former cruiser rather than 7ft giant), got some nice money for stepping aside or both of the above (more likely). One of the conditions on Haye taking his place was Ruiz being installed as his WBA mandatory.

So Haye was always going to face Ruiz, however Ruiz got a bigger fight and payday, Sauerland made some good money off Haye on their 3 fight deal and as usual Haye made a ****ing fortune. Everybody wins.

There is no difference between a "real" mandatory and a "shot" one, they are both compulsory defences if you want to keep the belt. Boxing fans usually understand this sort of ****....

However Ruiz wasn't shot, in fact he was better than he was for years. No hugging, lots of agression, great stamina and conditioning and he landed some crisp shots. Ruiz has never set the world alight but he was decent that night.

Wladimir also recently fought Tony Thompson as his mandatory which kinda makes you look a bit stupid.

Either way, nobody can complain about those fight because they were mandatory defences and not the fighters' choices.

 

The K bros have fought pretty much everyone at HW. Haye has not. HUGE difference between the two, and a weak ass argument.

 

Most Brits actually disagreed with this fight and Haye only got PPV in his next fight because it was against Wlad.

No one thought it would be a good fight, the only slightly interesting thing was Haye's suspect chin and Audley's power.

It was nothing but a money fight, all boxers deserve money fights.

 

Yup.

Everybody knew it was a keep busy fight, no risk of him losing his title but it generated a lot of interest because of their previous rivalry and bad blood. We bought the fight and watched it under no illusions that it was going to be great or in any way meaningful.

Plus it's Audley getting a title shot, we all love Audley!

 

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They are two different individual boxers, not a team.

So no, they haven't fought everyone at HW, far from it in fact. They seem to make a point of selecting fighters more suited to them and letting the other brother fight the ones that aren't.

I would love to see Vitali fight Haye and Chambers, those guys would be in with a chance of beating him. Similarly Chisora would give Wladimir problems, Wlad would still smoke him though.

 

False.

 

Well considering Rogan has gone 16-4 in reality while never moving beyond domestic level I highly doubt that.

 

I am aware of that. My post still stands, as there really aren't any contenders that stand out over anyone else who either guy has not beaten.

I really don't see why everyone keeps mentioning Haye. He simply isn't doing jack in the HW division, other then sitting and waiting for a shot. As much as I like Chambers, he's still sitting since his last fight w/ Adamek as well.

Fact of the matter is, the HW division is just utter ****. It would be one thing if the top contenders were fighting one another to make themselves the clear, and obvious next contender. But instead, it's just a 'wait till my shot' division.