As much as fans want this fight, who actually favors Cotto to beat PBF and why?

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  1. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I for one would love to see this fight, but I would also like for it to develop into a fight between to great fighters. Cotto is almost there and both fighters are still in their prime. I see it being similar to putting together Ray Leonard and Hearns 20+ years ago. It would do great numbers and elevate both fighters status, win lose or draw in my book. Its been a longtime since their was a fight at welterweight that had 2 top 10 pound for pounders. I have the patients to wait for the fight, but I also understand timing. Mayweather has been a champion in 5 weight classes and enivisioning him ducking a fighter is B.S. especially when you have to consider that Cotto wouldnt be his best opponent to date, which isnt the same I can say for Cotto. Cotto for all his strength, poise, and heart is just too stoic, and mechanical to defeat a master craftsman like Mayweather. His peek-a-boo defense is wide open for straight rights, Mayweathers best punch, jabs and uppercuts which Mayweather puts together in combination. Also Cotto is deliberate in his approach and the only way to have success with Mayweather is to rough him up. I favor Mayweather in this match-up and will be waiting for it to happen.
     
  2. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    I would pick Cotto to beat Mayweather by a close, but clear decision.

    I think he has the style to get it done (intelligent technical pressure).
     
  3. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Only way I see him defeating Mayweather is by stoppage and that is less likely than by descision. Cotto has a tendency to gas sometimes late in fights and that is usually when Mayweather steps up his game. I see Cotto's strength and combinations giving Mayweather problems, but I just cant see him winning. He is too vunerable on defense...too stiff.
     
  4. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    That's a fair assessment, although Cotto has better stamina that you give him credit for, I believe. He was backpedaling against Mosley because of Mosley's physical strength and the way he was imposing it on Cotto. Against Judah, he was getting stronger as the rounds went on.

    I have typed out some extremely long explanations in the past. I'll try to dig those up.
     
  5. pugilistspecialist

    pugilistspecialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you dont have to...just make it short and sweet. IMO people underrate Mayweathers strength. No one has ever manhandled him and he has faced several fighters who were harder punchers and larger than himself. Cotto has good stamina, but I see him missing enough to wear it becomes a factor late in a fight with Mayweather who is the best counterpuncher in the biz. Cotto will grow weary from trying to corner Mayweather and catching counters all night.
     
  6. shelterr

    shelterr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't really think Cotto beat a gunshy Mosely. He isn't going to beat PBF. I'll bet every dollar I have come fight night if it ever comes off.
     
  7. C Money

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    Yes I favor Cotto!! He has all the ability and skills. More importantly? He has the attitude and I doubt he'll be awestruck with Floyds talent.

    Stylistically? Cotto has a few advantages, natural southpaw, better power, and uses his jab. He understands how to box and has the guts and heart to give his all.

    IMO? Boxing is robbed without PBF vs Cotto and Floyd simply doesnt care that he has more respect to gain in that fight than any other at the MOMENT.

    Real and true ATG's faced the biggest test's. Floyd's reluctance only sells his career short. It's unbelievably TWO FACED to say Maywether promotions IS BOXIINg but yet you run from the greatness that BOXING can bring a man.

    Maybe Floyd wins? If he does? He gains more respect than any other fight. But we have to wait FOR COTTO to clean the division? Cotto has earrned my respect much more by his actions.

    BTW? I used to "hate" on Cotto a bit. I picked Quintana to box his ears off, and after Cotto won? He proved quite a bit and thats only continued. More people will respect action's rather than HYPE. There's no question who's walking the path and who's dodging the path.
     
  8. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    :lol: Me too
     
  9. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    How did you score the fight?
     
  10. C Money

    C Money Paul McCloskey Full Member

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    I also picked Malignaggi:rofl

    Shows what a Cotto hugger I've been:lol:

    Cotto beat me into respect, Floyd might do the same, but only one seems willing to do so:D
     
  11. Nestea

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    I pick Cotto for a SD decision. A close fight.
     
  12. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    Cotto's ability to deal with speed has really won me over. He's also a far more versatile and intelligent fighter than many are willing to give him credit for.

    You know, I wouldn't consider you a Floyd hater per say. More of a person who just wants to see Floyd prove himself against the best opposition available (which is Cotto).

    :good
     
  13. jabo

    jabo Active Member Full Member

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    i think mayweatheer takes this but cotto has something to prove out there and mayweather might be it. he might pull the upset thats boxing for ya
     
  14. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void said he would not fight Cotto, and for good reason, he is going to WWF fake fighting. Cotto will knock Void out, but Void would have "his" referee and judges to help him out as beat they can.
     
  15. Sweet Pea

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    I take Cotto to win these days. I agree with Brooklyn that technical pressure is the way to go against Floyd. A pressure fighters always seems to give Mayweather a tougher time than a boxer, but against the open, swarming types(Chavez, Hatton, etc) he's proven too good a counter-puncher. Against the technical, stalking pressure he faced against Castillo, he did not fare nearly as well, and in fact many feel he lost that fight.

    Against Cotto, he faces someone bigger, stronger, more powerful, and overall more versatile than Castillo. Combine that with the fact that Mayweather is getting increasingly less mobile on his feet compared to his lighter, younger days, and you have quite a style to deal with. Cotto is much better offensively than guys like Hatton and Chavez because he is a textbook fighter, one who doesn't come in wide(though his stance is a little loose at the elbows, somewhat vulnerable to uppercuts) and throws excellent body-head combinations. I don't think Mayweather has the movement at this stage to keep Cotto off him, and he won't find the same counter-punching opportunities with Cotto as he would with many of the others he's faced. Not to mention Cotto is better able to hold his own in the middle of the ring than a guy like Hatton as well.

    Mayweather is an extremely smart fighter, and as I said, Cotto leaves certain oppenings in his stance, such as vulnerabilities to uppercuts, that Floyd could exploit. Not to mention Cotto would likely not take the clean shots as good as the iron-chinned Castillo. Overall though, I see Cotto's style getting the better of Floyd.

    Could I be wrong? Sure, given the points I just made, but I don't think so.