As much as fans want this fight, who actually favors Cotto to beat PBF and why?

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  1. obedt

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    You bet I will!!! Not exactly holding my breath over here. :lol:
     
  2. fitzgeraldz

    fitzgeraldz And the new Full Member

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    I think Cotto will be in awe of Mayweather's size and his accomplishments. Standing across the ring from him is totally different than watching film of him.

    DLH is also a natural southpaw who fights orthodox and he didn't seem to confuse Mayweather at all. Mayweather took away his left hook - and rolled his right hands.

    Real and true ATG's do exactly what Mayweather has done throughout his career.

    He's been world champion for 10yrs ... he's a 6-time belt holder in 5 different weight classes. What more can you ask for? He the reigning and defending WW champion ... he's beaten the champion for his title - no vacant belt ... he beat the champion ... so he's the champion.

    Did I also mention he's managed to do all that and not lose?

    "you can fry anything w/ cold grease" ... 39 fighters have tried and all of them have tasted defeat. Cotto is no different from anyone on Floyd's resume.

    Mayweather TKO mid-rounds ... either cuts or too much punishment
     
  3. obedt

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    No reason for the fight to happen then, is there fitz? I mean, the way Floyd has dominated the WW division over the last year and a half, you just have to be in awe.
     
  4. fitzgeraldz

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    No you don't have to be in awe because of that ... but once Michael Buffer starts his speaking on his credentials and he takes a look on how confident Mayweather looks - he's going to be surprised. Usually Cotto is the one more confident, his opponents are usually intimidated by his size and appearance.

    Floyd is bigger than Cotto from the shoulders and the chest and he's more ripped than Cotto.

    Hatton got caught up like that and had to fight to become more confident.

    He knew he was in there with a better fighter but he thought that he could muscle his way in. Because of his misconception on how he thought he could beat Mayweather.
     
  5. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Serious question here. We all know Floyd's been a champ for a long time, who has he ducked over his championship years???
     
  6. obedt

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    Not sure if you've seen a ton of Cotto fights, but he always starts by hopping in his corner with his back turned to the opponent until the bell rings. I really don't see anyone psyching Cotto out before a fight. And to write that anything Buffer says will cause Cotto any bit of worry is kind of childish. You're not mentioning anything stylistically that will happen. You don't go into details of how Cotto's defense will be broken down by Floyd. You don't discuss how Floyd isn't a fast starter but tries to decipher opponents mid-fight. You don't expand on the way they both vary their styles in the midst of the rounds. There's just no substance to this debate.

    All that said, it isn't really relevant. Floyd doesn't want the fight.
     
  7. ChampionsForever

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  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    PBF wins this fight period. Cotto is a great boxer puncher but he will meet his match when these two meet. Cotto has never been in the ring with someone who has the complete package like PBF does and Cotto does nothing that PBF hasn't dealt with before. PBF holds several key advantages over Cotto which will be the difference in this fight. The first being speed PBF has better foot and handspeed than Cotto period. He will be able to beat Cotto to the punch and get out of the way more times than Cotto will. Another factor is PBF's superior ring generalship PBF is the best in the game and he will dictate the pace of this fight he will also land the more impressive blows which the judges like. Stamina is also a factor PBF has the best stamina in the sport and we've never seen him tired. Cotto was tired as hell against a past prime Mosley and against PBF he be even more tired because of PBF's better counter-punching and better movement than Mosley. Chin is another factor you can say all you want about Cotto's problems are behind him now he's at 147 but the fact is he's been on ***** street more than once and can be badly hurt. The chin aspect of PBF's game is probably the most underrated along with his heart he's fought bigger punchers than Cotto as in Chico and Oscar just to name a couple. PBF will catch Cotto with straight right hands which he's a sucker for and flush with shots he doesn't see and he will hurt Cotto in this fight. Lastly PBF will take away Cotto's best punch he will take away Cotto's jab like he did Oscar's jab and left hook. He will also limit Cotto's body attack much like Mosley did.

    In the end I see PBF landing the bigger cleaner shots as he fustrates Cotto with his superior defense, speed and footwork while he wins a clear UD. Every PBF fight people say the samething this guy has the perfect style to beat PBF and everytime they are proven wrong...it has to get old.:-( Haven't you learned you lesson by now??? The bullprint doesn't exist.:deal I don't mind it though because when these two meet as sure as the sun rises I'll be here to remind you of it.:hi:
     
  9. fitzgeraldz

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    All the fans want me to fight this fighter, that fighter ... i'll fight them, but when i'm ready, on my terms. I'm the champion I don't have to look for them, they have to look for me.

    And it makes sense ... let Cotto get his weight up - get his fan base up outside of PR & NY ...

    The fight will happen and they both stand to make alot of money for it not to happen.
     
  10. PaddyD1983

    PaddyD1983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Firstly - there is nothing I would love more than to see PBF knocked out! He is a fantastic boxer but his mouth is far too loud and brash for my liking!

    That having been said there is a flaw in Cotto's armoury which could be exploited by the best P4P in the world. I havent seen this written anywhere and never seen anyone else point it out but Cotto's lead left hook to the body comes back very slowly. Whenever he throws it he either leaves it out a split second longer than I'm comfortable with, or throws an overhand right after it and almost drags the left back to the chin as he bobs from left to right to left again. This concerns me against Mayweather who is quick enough to counter this with a right to the chin.

    The only other question for me then is whether PBF has the power to put Cotto on his back? I havent seen Cotto down since the Torres fight (i may be wrong there - has he been down since?) and Cotto has strengthened alot since that time! So the counter may not be as effective as it would seem.

    I'd have to side with Floyd on this one though, his defence is impenetrable and his counter punching just too quick.

    I see this being a close fight - VERY close!
     
  11. Illmatic

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    no dumb****...you said presssure beats him...what the hell do you think EVERY ****ING OPPONENT OF HIS has tried to do? go watch a fight or two and then come back
     
  12. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't see it, I can't see cotto beating floyd.
    Cotto punches are too wide and on many occasion he launches a left hook haymaker with his head down, not even looking at the target, which is why Zab nailed him with the upper cut.

    In his fights with shane and Zab both fighter stood right in front of Cotto, so I didn't see anything in those fights that convince me that Cotto can beat Floyd.

    In both those two fight both shane and Zab put all there eggs in one basket in hope they would nail Cotto questionable chin and in doing so made them selves look limited .

    Zab stood right in front of cotto waiting for the opportunity to land the perfect counter punch and in doing so took too much punishment to continue the fight.

    Shane literally walked in the front door for cotto, he moved straight forward into cotto Jabs and Hooks, in order to get to Cotto's chin force a KO and in doing so Cotto out boxing him on occasion in the fight.

    it wasn't until 6 or 7 I forget which , that Shane tried boxing trying to get Cotto to run into a shot. Close fight but Shane could have made the fight a lot easy on himself and the judges by boxing and not try to force the KO , Shane made cotto look like a better boxer then he really is .
    I myself thought shane would box, wear cotto down and KO him late in the fight , I never thought that Shane would try for a early KO.


    If and when Cotto and Floyd meet , I see floyd making Cotto pay every time he throws that wide left Hook to the body , and will definitely make him pay for winning that left hook to the head while looking at the floor. Floyd will not stand in front of Cotto , like Shane and Zab did , he will use angles and counter off the angles when Cotto reaches , which Cotto's does allot.

    Floyd will not look for that one punch to Cotto chin like Shane and Zab did , he will look for Cotto's mistakes , take away Cotto cheff weapons(
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    once floyd has done that you will see him shift into third gear and take over the fight - Floyd By UD
     
  13. fitzgeraldz

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    You're never going to find that PaddyD ... he's not going to lose as long as the competition is like this.

    He's in his prime and no one's going to beat this man in his prime.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    Excellent post! PBF won't stand in front of Cotto and make it easy for him. PFB's movement and the ability to fight off his back foot will fustrate the hell outta Cotto and the improtance of this can't be overlooked and he has no answer for it.:deal Like you also said he will take away Cotto's jab and limit his body attack.
     
  15. obedt

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    How can he be the champ if he doesn't defend the belt? Seriously?