As much as I hate to say it...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by roughdiamond, Nov 3, 2019.


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  1. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Canelo Alvarez is P4P No.1 with that victory.

    A conservative bout that never really caught fire, with a suspicious ending in some confusing circumstances.

    But I can't deny the result, and both men showed some good work. Canelo especially surprised me.

    Oh well. On to Inoue - Donaire!
     
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  2. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Loma is more talented. Kovalev is a spent force. Smoke & mirrors win..

    Loma, Inoue, Crawford >Canelo.
     
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  3. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Easy argument for Top 5, difficult to eliminate the other contenders with a fight against an aging boxer we've seen who has lost a bit in each fight, those still a handful.
     
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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Oh boy if the internet existed for the days of Ray Rob and Cassius...
     
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  5. From.Russia

    From.Russia Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I hate to say it but boxing, cuz of casuals, desperately needs fighters like this. Alvarez is relatively young,with great resume( on paper ) many people love him and many hate him, kinda like Floyd. If Kovalev had knocked him out it would have been bad for boxing, cuz Sergey is a boxer with no futurey.
     
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  6. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    It's pretty obvious he's the p4p number 1 today.
     
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  7. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    I honestly can't see him below top 2 after that. And that's being pedantic.
     
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  8. Scissors

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    He’s right up there.
     
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  9. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    He won't even fight old pac
     
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  10. Liquorice

    Liquorice Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Probably because he's busy trying to unify 135 sweetheart.. not everyone chases old guys
     
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  11. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    No argument from me.

    My take is a compromise. On one hand he moved up and rocked a bigger, solid fighter. On the flip side, I wasn't one of those claiming Kov was still in his prime or capable of drubbing Canelo. So taking that into consideration the other nominees have beaten younger, less injury-proned boxers.

    Canelo proved he still belongs in the P4P, I don't raise a P4P stat when the betting odds were for Canelo making Kov the under dog.
     
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    lol imagine Chavez vs Taylor? Or Pernell?
     
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  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Sure
     
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  14. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    Good points. Hopefully we can forget about this one with Inoue's forthcoming bout lol.
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    I was wrong. Kovalev was shot, and this was a cherry pick. No number one spot for him.
     
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