As time goes on I rate Floyd's win over JMM higher.........

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Whether Mayweather would beat Marquez at 130lbs is not the issue, the issue is that in reality the fight they did have with each other was invalidated by the weight and size issue being skewed radically in favour of Mayweather. It wasn't a fair fight, end of story.

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What I cant understand is why people keep trying to give weight a new name, like height, reach, speed, or movement. Weight is pounds, how do you use that, by leaning on, holding and making your opponent have to deal with the extra weight. That **** never happened.However, he did use those other names that people is giving weight, plus brains to outclass and outbox JMMs ass that night.:bbb:bbb:bbb

 

Floyd didn't use his size against JMM it was skill vs skill.

 

Same view here ! FMJ outskilled JMM.

Still rooting for Pac though should they meet in the ring:yep

 

Then you have'nt read anything in this thread but your own posts, as each and every one of your points has been addressed. They may have not been addressed directly to quote you, but each of your points has been addressed thoroughly and appropriately.

 

I'm actually surprised at the ignorance here. In no way did weight come into play. Floyd didn't bully Marquez around, he's not a monstrous puncher. Size wasn;t part of Floyds game that night at all.

It was a simple fight to break down. Marquez is a counter puncher and a combination puncher. Floyd took him out of his game by forcing him to be the aggressor and Marquez couldn't figure out how to counter a counter puncher.

Floyd outboxed Marquez, plain and simple. He didn't run, he didn't walk Marquez down, he stood in the center of the ring and let Marquez throw punches. He made Marquez miss and countered or timed him all night long.

lol at how many people think that all it takes to beat Marquez is a few pounds.

 

IF you're going to start with that don't follow it with an extremely ignorant comment.

 

Floyd took him out of his game by taking him two weight level up and cheat him 2 pounds.

Mamalia ignoramus.

 

hey buddy, whats your take at jmm-pbf on these weight?

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remember, pbf on his 130 days vs jmm on his pac-jmm2 days.:think

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is there something you all know that we don't. by any chance, did you know for yourselves that the weight did not have any impact at all on floyds power on a lighter jmm? was floyd just tapping jmm's cheeks and never really punched jmm at any point in the fight for you to be so sure that jmm did not receive relatively heavier blows?

floyd said himself he was going for the ko. aren't you even going to concede that he was not pulling on his punches. he was letting his hands go. and everytime something landed, weight factors in. everytime he receives a punch from a bloated man, weight factors in.

 

As if Floyd being smaller would stop him from landing right hand leads almost at will and ducking under JMM's slow counters. 135 lbs Floyd was even faster and busier...

 

Mayweather was never a featherweight.

The lower the weight, the more competitive the fight is.

I think Marquez would have stood a good chance at 130 lbs, but I'd still have to favor Mayweather because of his height, reach, and speed advantage.
.......but those gaps in the physical advantage Mayweather had against Marquez at 147 lbs narrow significantly, and as I've stated, I think strenghthwise, Marquez would be the physically stronger fighter at 130 lbs, which would make Mayweathers bump and roll defense not nearly as effective against a physicallly stronger Marquez than it was at 147 lbs.

Marquez being physically stronger than Mayweather at 130 lbs I believe lends to the notion that he would at various points in the fight break through Mayweather's shoulder roll and the physical defense he likes to employ......which in turn would force Mayweather to have to left his hands go to gain Marquez respect, which in turn opens up opportunities for Marquez to land on the counter.

I think it would play out razor close, but because of styles, I still have to give the quicker, faster, skill fighter the advantage to pull out a decision.

Btw, if anyone is getting knocked out at 130 lbs, it will be Mayweather from the creative combinations Marquez would land on him during inside fire exchange.

 

And you have something to add?

 

Isal, youve always been a pac hater since day 1, especially when pac gobbled all your heroes... you have no right to be in this discussion, ******.

 

Ironically- i think that floyd would have put a huger hurt on Marquez if it was the 130-135 floyd! He was a BEAST in the lower weights, moreso than he is no IMO.Obviously age and experience would have come into play- but if the floyd at 130 (skill and attribute wise) and the 147 floyd(intelligence wise) meshed into 1 fighter and fought marquez at 130 Marquez would have needed a coroner.