As we approach Joe Calzaghe's 10th anniversary as World Champion

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by PrideOfWales, Aug 16, 2007.


  1. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The 3 previous WBO champions before Calzaghe were Tommy Hearns , Chris Eubank and Steve Collins .

    The WBO has always been seen as a legitimate belt at Super Middleweight because the division itself is so new .

    Anyway , it's the champion that makes the belt . Were Thulani Malinga , Vicenzo Nardiello , Eric Lucas and Marcus Beyer more of a champion than Calzaghe was ?
     
  2. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Any you can find. Nunn-Toney was solid.
     
  3. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    I will give Calzaghe props if he beats Kessler, but he is still relativelty un-proven to me. He needs to fightelite fighters. His title defenses have been against no name bums. With the exception of Eubank.
    Lacy was overrated to me. ANd Other than that, he never really faced any decent competition. I for one am not a big fan of his as evry1 kinda knows already. BUt A win against Kessler he will get my props for beating him seeing as how he is a fellow title holder, and the #2 supermiddleweight in the world.
    But Joe needs to fight some elite fighters (Bhop, Jermain Taylor, RJJ,CHad Dawson) Just to name a few.
     
  4. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    The people you name are only considered "elite" by people like you because they are hyped. Calzaghe's not hyped in the States because he's not American and has no interest fighting there. If you're not impressed by Calzaghe, you won't even have heard much at all about Kessler so why will that impress you?

    How many "elite" fighters has Chad Dawson faced to be considered "elite"? BHop is old, Taylor's a good fight though. RJJ means nothing anymore and Dawson is severely unproven.
     
  5. BigEars

    BigEars Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think you're being a bit unfair , Robin Reid , Richie Woodhall , Charles Brewer and Byron Mitchell were all top Super Middleweights . Omar Sheika was highly thought of and coming off a win against Glen Johnson when Calzaghe beat him too .

    Other guys Calzaghe beat were solid if unspectacular opponents . Yes there has been a lack of elite opponents , but Calzaghe has a much better resume up to the point he fought Lacy than Hopkins did up to the point he fought Trinidad . Yet Hopkins is praised(rightfully so) for his reign .
     
  6. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    SO bernard i hyped? RJ is hyped? Jermain Taylor is hyped?
    Chad Dawson mayb cuz he is still kind of unproven
    How are all the people I listed hyped, these are all proven fighters.
    And I wonder why he doesnt fight in the states?:huh All his fights have been in the confort of his backyard, against bums. And I kno about kessler b/ simply I watch boxing :rofl:rofl. So WTF are you talkin about, yeah I dont like Calzaghe all that much, but if a fight is on I watch it. SO wata re you talkin about young grasshopper
     
  7. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    DOnt get me wrong, I have my faults with Hopkins 2. He stayed at middleweigth and milked it for all It had. As oppose to coming up in weight to get real challenges. So I wont do the double standard thing. B-Hop did the same thign 2, he beat up on a lot of Jr Middleweights.
     
  8. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Yes, everyone is hyped to **** in the States. That's a fact nobody with a brain will deny. I'm not saying any of the boxers mentioned are a piece of poo but... actually it is pointless starting this with you, you wouldn't be able to understand.
     
  9. ThePlugInBabies

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    number of times calzaghe has fought outside the uk - 2
    number of times hopkins has fought outside the us - 2
    taylor outside the us - 0
    rjj outside the us - 0

    your point is lame and proves nothing.
     
  10. henrik

    henrik fasthands Full Member

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    And maybe you should come down bro....:-(
     
  11. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    no xplain it 2 me, im listenin. I wont b bias 2wards him. Explain wat your saying
     
  12. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    UHm the difference is, when your british and you fight in britain all the time.
    Referee is british, Judges are british. Evry1 is british. And lets b real here in boxing there is a lot of politics. So if a international fighter comes in and challenges Joe on his home soil and the fight mayb close they will most likely lean 2wrds the hometown favorite.
    As oppose to the US at least its a mixture. And i kno that aint to much of an xcuse. But it is wat it is. And as a matter of fact 4get where he fights at ima leave that one out. Its the people who he fighting is wat I have an issue with
     
  13. Fab2333

    Fab2333 Needs to Get It 2Gether Full Member

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    :good
     
  14. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    A Welsh fighter fighting in England can also be a world apart.

    London to New York 3471 miles
    New York to Las Vegas 2453 miles

    Am I missing something here? Yes, you're a complete ******.
     
  15. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    This shows a severe lack of research (which is fairly easy to achieve should you look at something as easy to understand as boxrec) which is why arguing with you is pointless.