Ashley Thoephane. How do you rate him?

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  1. Bobby Sinn

    Bobby Sinn Bulimba Bullant Full Member

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    I've never seen him fight, but his record seems stable enough. A long apprenticeship in the 4's & 6 rounders. Has he made an noise in the UK??

    How do you see his future at Welter??
     
  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    He isn't terrible and probably isn't too far outside of a top 20 h2h...but I'm not fond of his style, and think he got an absolute gift over Rodriguez.
     
  3. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    He's a decent kid. Good contender/Gatekeeper. Just below the best level but can give certain fighters problems on his best night. Not a walkover for anyone especially guys like Brook. That fight would actually be a good gauge of Kell Brooks ability. Think of Theophane as a Litzau type. He's spent most of his career in the US btw, so we might not be as familiar with him as you might think. I've seen him fight across the pond more times then here. He gave a good prospect like Danny Garcia a very good test and some might argue he won that fight.
     
  4. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's a good battler who hasn't really had any big opportunities over here, hence why he travels around a lot. I agree with IB that he got a 'gift' against Rodriguez, but did show what he was about in the later rounds of the fight. And as Slip says, ran a touted prospect in Garcia very close.
     
  5. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    saw him years ago when he got a rare stoppage win, as people have said good gatekeeper type fighter get past him and your doing something right. If i rememeber his lack of punching power held him back a bit but he does have the odd decent win on his card........fights manily in the states these days
     
  6. SILVIO_DANTE

    SILVIO_DANTE Active Member Full Member

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    he thinks he's better than he is

    i remember a while back a fight with judah was supposed ot be on the cards and he cried cos judah wouldn't fight him, but then he got beat by guys like danny garcia so how he can expect big fights is beyond me

    he's decent, he'll probably earn a living from boxing for the next few years, but he'll never win a world title
     
  7. LHL

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    Decent fighter, like everyone else has said a good gatekeeper who's awkward style causes the prospects a good deal of trouble. I thought he took the Garcia fight although it was close and could of went either way. Rodriguez should of beat him by a decent margin.

    You have to give him his credit, got sick of messing around on the Brit circuit and went and challenged himself against the bigger names and has came out better for it.

    Will be interesting to see where he goes after the Rodriguez fight.
     
  8. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ive only seen him the once.He looked a decent fighter.
     
  9. Chinny

    Chinny Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I met him at Gleasons gym in August. Nice bloke.
     
  10. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    He got Dimitri Salita to say "bollocks" on Sky Sports. That'll do for me!!
     
  11. gooners!!

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    I thought he beat Danny Garcia myself, although I felt he lost to Rodriguez.

    He is kinda of a mess you about type of fighter, one of those guys who is a little unorthodox, can upset your rhythm, but not someone I would describe as particularly dangerous. I guess you could say he is an opponent you wouldn't want to face coming off a loss if your confidence is low, as he seems to have the ability to frustrate you a little.
     
  12. gooners!!

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    Danny Garcia vs Theophane

    Round 1 Theophane(close)

    Theophane landed the looping right a couple of times on
    Garica and seemed to be dictating the rhythm of the round
    toward the end.

    Round 2 Theophane

    Maybe im being kind to Theophane but i felt he nailed
    Garcia with the best punch of the round and landed
    a left hook toward the end, Garcia is waiting too long and
    allowing Theophane to dictate the pace and when he lulls
    Garcia to sleep he's jumping in with the right hand and
    left hooks.

    Round 3 Theophane

    Theophane scored early with two of those looping rights and toward the end he was actually backing Garcia up and nailing him with left hooks.

    Round 4 Garcia

    Better round for Garica as he countered Theophane with a left right combo and backed up him up the rest of the round and fought more aggressively, which is what he should of been doing from round 1 imo, that being said, Theophane still couldn't miss him with the looping right hand

    Round 5 Theophane

    Garcia is waiting again this round and fighting Theophane's fight again, Theophane landed with right hands and left hooks this round, Garcia needs to turn up the heat and stay on Theophane.


    Round 6 Garcia

    Garcia countered with the better shots this round

    Round 7 Garcia

    Garcia countering with the cleaner harder punches again in this round, Garcia hurt Theophane mid round as was looking to jump back on him and get him outta there

    Round 8 Theophane
    Garcia invited Theophane to attack by dropping his hands but he carelessly got nailed a bit in this round

    Round 9 even

    Garcia won this round imo but he had a point taken for a low blow, it seemed a little harsh to me

    Round 10 Garcia

    Garcia was more consistent over the round


    Theophane won this fight imo, the point deduction was key. Garcia fought
    Theophane's fight early on as he let Theophane dictate to the rythm of the fight, Garcia was being made to reset, and was getting nailed with raiding attacks because he was too tight due to the fact he was flat footed and looking to load up imo, Garcia did better when he tried to counter Theophane's attacks, that said, he was still getting nailed throughout the fight with Theophane's looping right hands and left hooks. Garcia's defence looked terrible in this fight, as he was hit time and again by Theo's
    overhand right, he fought too square and was looking for too many singles early on.
     
  13. marcelocrb

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    he is just a decent,capable fighter, doesn´t look like he has a reasonable power in his hands, but his style is kinda awkward.i think i saw 3 fights of this guy: vs Oubaali, Garcia and Rodrigues.he is rated at 7 on IBF ratings right now, if he stay on winning track,can get some good fights,maybe a tittle shot on future, even i don´t realy believe his a top fighter.
     
  14. riggers

    riggers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Ash is out in NYC sparring Salita who is fighting Anchondo. Ash is now a light welter, he is hoping to sign a contract to fight Daws on his return to London. A fight i would expect him to win comfortably.
     
  15. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Really? that's interesting...he doesn't look the biggest of welters, It might actually do him some good, especially his punching power.

    Theophane against someone like Frankie Gavin would be very intriguing.